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Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

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Re: Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

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More like horror movie ads show up for my toddler between watching Zoboomafoo and Little Bear, that was the last straw. I know there are other solutions for that particular problem like DNS ad blockers but I am ready to move on to a completely new and less tracky system.

Your search engine of choice doesn't list anything related to alternative systems? If thats the case then you already know the answer to your question. If not, then you already have yout answer anyway.

I think optimal system configuration takes more than a simple one page Google search. It builds upon the successes and failures of what curious people have already tried. anyway.

Re: Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

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Your search engine of choice doesn't list anything related to alternative systems? If thats the case then you already know the answer to your question. If not, then you already have yout answer anyway.

I think optimal system configuration takes more than a simple one page Google search. It builds upon the successes and failures of what curious people have already tried. anyway.

What the hell are you talking about?!?

Re: Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

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In the long run I don't see anything but open screen protocol actually being competitive. There's dozens of different cast things, but imo it was access to the web & web platform that made Chromecast so capable & powerful, and nothing else is remotely as competent. https://github.com/w3c/openscreenprotocol There are however little more than tech demos for it. There's still a significant body of unresolved questions.…

What I don't understand is what the actual hardware needed to run on a "regular" TV is. Do I need to buy a Raspberry Pi 4, connect via HDMI and cross my fingers that my TV remote will work with whatever open source TV software is out there? I am surprised that I can't find something more like a complete product for sale with software + dongle + remote.

This would be a rpi or mini PC plugged in, yeah. Really it's not actually much different than Chromecast, same general ideas and technologies. It might be possible to make an open screen server that runs on Android running tv's, but deploying to those things is, to my understanding, a sort of deliberate hell orchestrated by everyone involved, from Google to the TV makers.

Generally I recommend -- like with Chromecast -- using your phone to launch and control apps, using your phone as the locus of control. Maybe having a gyro mouse or Bluetooth keyboard connected to your pi... but the originally Chromecast was input less, was a networked output. To cast a thing was just to tell the display or speaker: go to this URL. And then to have some communication channel open from your phone or casting computer to the display or speaker. Any web page can use Presentation API to start a cast, to extend itself to another device. It's amazing. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Presentatio...

Under that model, there is no remote. The phone is the remote.

To run a regular TV is harder. Yeah I don't recommend trying to host a whole media system. You can run jellyfin on many TVs or maybe plex. Some rare brave souls go and build their own castles in the sky. Personally I feel strongly though that people clutching at remotes & making the tv itself the locus control are doing it wrong and that the cast model is fundamentally much better, and that the tv itself ought be a blank slate. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/broken-linux-laptop-...

Re: Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

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What I don't understand is what the actual hardware needed to run on a "regular" TV is. Do I need to buy a Raspberry Pi 4, connect via HDMI and cross my fingers that my TV remote will work with whatever open source TV software is out there? I am surprised that I can't find something more like a complete product for sale with software + dongle + remote.

This would be a rpi or mini PC plugged in, yeah. Really it's not actually much different than Chromecast, same general ideas and technologies. It might be possible to make an open screen server that runs on Android running tv's, but deploying to those things is, to my understanding, a sort of deliberate hell orchestrated by everyone involved, from Google to the TV makers. Generally I recommend -- like with Chromecast…

Thanks for all the info. After some more research, I think what I might be looking at as one of the better options is KDE Plasma Bigscreen on an old CPU plugged in the HDMI since it's rumored that they are about to roll out a release fairly soon. This way I would have access to a browser (I guess) for streaming apps and also have YouTube with no ads. Other solutions all had some significant drawbacks it seems like or weren't fully implemented.

Re: Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

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Should one Google “what does the hacker news community think is a good alternative to Chromecast”?

Why do you care about what the "hackernews community" thinks more than independent research?

Why even have an Ask HN tab at all? You can find anything out from independent research or develop it yourself. I guess when you are promoted as CEO of ycombinator you can get rid of the tab altogether and we can all slow clap for you. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: I'm fed up with my Chromecast/Google TV. What are my options?

#17

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Why do you care about what the "hackernews community" thinks more than independent research?

Why even have an Ask HN tab at all? You can find anything out from independent research or develop it yourself. I guess when you are promoted as CEO of ycombinator you can get rid of the tab altogether and we can all slow clap for you. Good luck!

Agreed with that first part. Not so sure about that second part.
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