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Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

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Re: Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

#11
I don’t think anyone that has worked in an early stage startup would ask this question.

Because the reality is that 99% of a startup’s success is in the boring grind of doing marketing, sales, development, customer support, accounting, on and on.

Actually making the simple app is the easiest part of the process, and always has been, even before AI.

Re: Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

#14
Thats the point. Its all about how much risk you are willing to take. Thats what startups are supposed to represent - the risk takers of the population for whom the story has a high likelihood it wont end happily ever after.

Check out the Explore-Exploit Tradeoff which tells us what the Carrying Capicity of a group for risk takers is. Its never been high. Maybe 5% of any population. Out of which 4.99% fail. With those odds populations cant have everyone taking risk. Such populations sooner or later go extinct.

Attention Economy/Social Media/News Media realized risk taking captures attention. It helps Elon to raise funds, mesmerize customers and employee etc before anything is even built. So everyone starts signalling they are risk takers when really its about something else.

Re: Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

#15
This is called concurrency and it drives the world forward. Why do we have so many producers and sellers of clothes. If we had only one clothes manifaturer in the world, who will trigger the innovation and progress forward?!

Nobody can steal your identity, attitude, communication with clients and support. And usually, this is what makes the difference.

And there are also other, legal ways to protect things, even though it is expensive. It is to patent your products and ideas. :)

Re: Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

#17
post #7

People tried creating alternatives for MS Office, over the decades. Didn't succeed. Not because of technical moat. Some companies like Google reworked internet serach problem. They succeeded because of technical moat (page-ranking) and later they quickly moved on to the more common moat - user base, supply chain hijacking (ads) and branding. Social media firms hardly have any technical moat. They 100% rely on locking…

Social media's moat is network effect

Re: Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

#18
The important parts of your business cannot, in fact, be "copied in days". Things like trust, based on demonstrated reliability over time, human relationships based on being a decent human being and treating your customers with respect, your willingness to bend over backwards to accomodate special requests from customers, your ability to embed yourself into your customers' environment and build a genuinely deep understanding of their problems and challenges... etc., etc.

Copying technology is easy. But "business ≠ technology".

Re: Ask HN: What's the point in creating a startup when anyone can copy it in days?

#20
post #14

Thats the point. Its all about how much risk you are willing to take. Thats what startups are supposed to represent - the risk takers of the population for whom the story has a high likelihood it wont end happily ever after. Check out the Explore-Exploit Tradeoff which tells us what the Carrying Capicity of a group for risk takers is. Its never been high. Maybe 5% of any population. Out of which 4.99% fail. With thos…

> With those odds populations cant have everyone taking risk. Such populations sooner or later go extinct.

Not trying to be a jerk, but there is a logical fallacy here. If you've ever read the Selfish Gene the central idea is that there is a common misunderstanding that animals/societies evolve for "the good of the population". A population is better understood as a collection of individuals with each being a collection of genes, and really it is each gene that is trying to replicate itself. Applying it to your example, a risk-taking gene with .998% chance of failure would probably not replicate itself successfully, unless the .002% of individuals that succeed were quite prolific at procreation. The good of the population does not really come into it.

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