Building software with llm is easier than you imagine. I'd be surprised if you just don't pick it up. No need to lie, just open codex or claude and give it a try.
Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
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Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#12We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience. We’re in the traditionally slower moving GovTech space. I have to imagine this is now a common expectation in many sectors. Teams where I work can use Claude Code, Codex, Cursor, and Copilot CLI. Internally, it seems like Claude Code and Codex are the more popular tools being used by most software teams. If you’re new to th…
> We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience.
This doesn't make a lot of sense to me even as someone who uses agentic programming.
I would understand not hiring people who are against the idea of agentic programming, but I'd take a skilled programmer (especially one who is good at code review and debugging) who never touched agentic/LLM programming (but knows they will be expected to use it) over someone with less overall programming experience (but some agentic programming experience) every single time.
I think people vastly oversell using agents as some sort of skill in its own right when the reality is that a skilled developer can pick up how to use the flows and tools on the timescale of hours/days.
Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#13We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience. We’re in the traditionally slower moving GovTech space. I have to imagine this is now a common expectation in many sectors. Teams where I work can use Claude Code, Codex, Cursor, and Copilot CLI. Internally, it seems like Claude Code and Codex are the more popular tools being used by most software teams. If you’re new to th…
> We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me even as someone who uses agentic programming. I would understand not hiring people who are against the idea of agentic programming, but I'd take a skilled programmer (especially one who is good at code review and debugging) who never touched agentic/LLM programming (but knows they wi…
Right. Using Claude Code & friends is not some esoteric skill that needs years in the trenches to learn which magical incantations to utter.
You prompt it. That's it. Yes, there are better and worse ways of prompting; yes, there are techniques and SKILLs and MCP servers for maximizing usability, and yes, there are right ways to vibe code and wrong ways to vibe code. But it's not hard. At all.
And the last person I want to work with is the expert vibe coder who doesn't know the fundamentals well enough to have coded the same thing by hand.
Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#14In fact, they want 10 years of vibe coding experience
The old copy/paste from StackOverflow was essentially vibe coding, it just took a bit more effort. I saw plenty of people Google their way to code that technically worked, without having any idea how or why.
If someone has been doing that for 10 years and learning nothing, that would be a huge red flag. One that will likely become more common has LLM usage increases.
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#15Oh definitely seems like it. In Australia, at least, I am seeing job ads from recruiters with titles like "AI Engineer" or asking for "LLM-assisted development" or "agentic development" and so on.
I noticed that some of these roles come from businesses that recently had layoffs and were now asking their staff to "do more with less" so not exactly places people would be eager to work at, unless they have to.
I don't know if this is the new norm but this craziness is not helped by the increase in the number of "AI influencers" pushing the hype. Unfortunately, I've been seeing this on HN a lot recently.
Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#16Its a valuable tool that I'd argue everyone is still figuring out how to do it well and the best practices keep changing rapidly. Even more so than everyone was figuring out how to do software well in the first place. Almost all of the best practices are made up, not validated, and kind of magical thinking.
Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#17I think recruiters would like to see what candidates will do when get some free time. It is not really a lifestyle. It is a short amount of time. Maybe couple of weekends, before they get some other work or get laid off.
E.g., Nobody wants to continue working with someone who create sound effects, movie player, operating system, etc.
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#19In fact, they want 10 years of vibe coding experience
They want people who not get scared of getting their hands dirty. There is something like perfectionism trap. It is very difficult to manage that.
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#20Agentic AI-assisted coding is an intrinsic part of the job now. Companies would be leaving lots of money on the table if they didn't take advantage of the 10x/50x/100x productivity gains. If you don't have the skills, learn. Shape up or ship out.