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Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

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Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#11
I did, I don't want the hassle of anything being blocked, and I don't want to upload identity details as they have the potential for misuse.

I notice that some tech companies claim they are "trusted" or have "trusted third parties", I don't trust them at all, I'm not sure why they think I do.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#12
> How many other people have done the same?

For your own personal sake, you may be selfishly wishing it’s as few people as possible. Eventually they’ll outlaw VPNs too and by then you’ll have little recourse. You can’t hide behind them forever, deeper change is needed.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#13
I have a VPN, self hosted, I had one because it was a way to keep my infra in one network for config management. I then extended it for skirting round giving my raw ID to some dogshit start who'll then either get hacked, or sell my details to someone nefarious.

If there had been a free, public and verifiable Age/ID service, that wasn't tied to advertising, then I might be more willing to hand over my ID. But because the VC whispered "freemarket" in the ears of the prick who designed this, we are stuck with the worst of all worlds. A non-secure way to prove ID, and a non-acceptable way to shield those that don't or cant consent, from harm.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

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post #12

> How many other people have done the same? For your own personal sake, you may be selfishly wishing it’s as few people as possible. Eventually they’ll outlaw VPNs too and by then you’ll have little recourse. You can’t hide behind them forever, deeper change is needed.

> Eventually they’ll outlaw VPNs too and by then you’ll have little recourse.

Even China doesn't quite manage to enforce that.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#16
I already had a VPN, because I live in the UK and do business in the US, and the easiest way to get websites to show local prices & shipping is a VPN. I think anyone that is involved with multiple countries needs one.

Localization was supposed to be a browser thing, using headers like Accept-Language, but alas.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#17

I just use TOR for circumventing blocks.

Yes, another one for tor. You can restrict exit nodes to certain countries, if you need to read something only available locally. Works for most, but not all, sites.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#18
post #3

I was trying to follow a tutorial the other day and couldn't because the embedded images were on Imgur and it was so frustrating. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. I caved, bought a 3 year PIA plan, had my router configured within about 2 minutes (actually impressed how straightforward Unifi made it) and now my browsing experience is fixed.

By putting it on your router, all your traffic is tunneled through the VPN, right? I ask this in comparison to applying it at a finer-grained level, such as just a particular machine, or to an application, or to even a browser tab or particular domain. I feel like I would never want all my traffic VPN-ed because it is slow, there are greater privacy concerns of VPN operators, and my needs for VPNs are a cleanly-separ…

I used Policy Based Routing so only imgur.com/i.imgur.com are redirected, everything else is as it was before.

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/12566175125783-UniFi-G...

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#19
I was already using Tor Browser for sites that UK ISPs are banned from letting me access.

I continue to use Tor Browser for entirely innocuous sites that are collateral damage of the OSA.

For example, the Interactive Fiction Archive. All its game files are voluntarily blocked in the UK by its well-meaning but stupid operators. Even games intended for children. They should stop complying and just serve up all their files to everyone. If a teenager learns what a. z5 file even is, they deserve to be able to play it.

Any reddit thread where someone said naughty words? "Oh we're going to need your phone number and a facial". I don't think so, Mr Data Harvester. Click on URL, Ctrl+c, alt-tab to Tor Browser, Ctrl+v, "Are you over 18?" Yes I am. See how easy that is?

I hate my government.

Re: Ask HN: How many people got VPNs in response to laws like UK Online Safety Act?

#20
post #12

> How many other people have done the same? For your own personal sake, you may be selfishly wishing it’s as few people as possible. Eventually they’ll outlaw VPNs too and by then you’ll have little recourse. You can’t hide behind them forever, deeper change is needed.

> Eventually they’ll outlaw VPNs too and by then you’ll have little recourse. Even China doesn't quite manage to enforce that.

It’s a mistake to think you need to get everyone perfectly all the time to be effective. Stopping businesses from operating legally and having your population afraid of committing a crime does a lot of work by itself.

It’s only techies who think “if I can get around it, it’s not that big of a deal”. As long as you live in a society, how other people behave affects what you can do too.

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