Mate, I think depression is indicative of the urgent need to change something.
If you don't have other health issues and/or disabilities, then what's left is to either change your job, or the people you are surrounded by.
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#12You are not depressed because you don’t care about your work. You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. Same with everything else. Your brain will show you opposite rationalizations if you’re really depressed. This doesn’t mean you can’t influence it by changing external factors. This means you need to take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. Not random dudes on the internet who…
> You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. > Same with everything else. > take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. So, you're seeing a depression as an external "illness" that can only be cured by pharmeceutical compounds? I can only speak for myself, but to me that was dangerous advice. it removed accountability for my actions. the only thing that helped was getting into new ac…
Everyone needs to find his way.
For me, talking about my childhood to someone that was non-judgemental helped me far more than lifting weight. But that was for me. I'm glad you found your way.
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#14I go get my dick wet on backpage. Hey, you asked.
I thought the feds got to that site back before covid times. I'm shocked that not only is it still up but still illicit.
Edit: Oh they did. In fact Kamala Harris was the AG who charged the owner.
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#15Could be your job, or you could be depressed. I think you could debug a bit, would most people be happy with your job? Do some people seem happy there? If you tell me you're entry level at Amazon, well, no, a lot of people hate that.
If you tell me you work for some startup slaving away 60 hours a week, or work for some backwater government agency where you work 20 hours a week max and everything moves as fast as molasses, sure, either of those extremes can crush someone's soul.
If you work at a company that many people seem to be happy at, then you either are in the wrong job, or you should see a professional.
Finally, do you have other people you care about in life? Modern society is so good at telling us to focus inward, but study after study shows we find fulfillment in caring for others, be it friends, a partner, children, pets, etc.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. > Same with everything else. > take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. So, you're seeing a depression as an external "illness" that can only be cured by pharmeceutical compounds? I can only speak for myself, but to me that was dangerous advice. it removed accountability for my actions. the only thing that helped was getting into new ac…
Everyone needs to find his way. For me, talking about my childhood to someone that was non-judgemental helped me far more than lifting weight. But that was for me. I'm glad you found your way.
Yes, sure, there is more than one way (maybe even as many ways as patients). My point was not about gym or not, it was about the idea that depression is something that is totally outside of one's own control.
Happy that you found your way, too.
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#17You are not depressed because you don’t care about your work. You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. Same with everything else. Your brain will show you opposite rationalizations if you’re really depressed. This doesn’t mean you can’t influence it by changing external factors. This means you need to take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. Not random dudes on the internet who…
> You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. > Same with everything else. > take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. So, you're seeing a depression as an external "illness" that can only be cured by pharmeceutical compounds? I can only speak for myself, but to me that was dangerous advice. it removed accountability for my actions. the only thing that helped was getting into new ac…
Of course it’s not black and white. But the more concious control you have over some problem - the more it is your own laziness or stupidity rather than an illness that needs to be treated by professionals. Generally speaking.
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#18Have you seen a psychiatrist?
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#19You are not depressed because you don’t care about your work. You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. Same with everything else. Your brain will show you opposite rationalizations if you’re really depressed. This doesn’t mean you can’t influence it by changing external factors. This means you need to take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. Not random dudes on the internet who…
> You don’t care about your work because you’re depressed. > Same with everything else. > take it seriously and find a good psychiatrist to help with it. So, you're seeing a depression as an external "illness" that can only be cured by pharmeceutical compounds? I can only speak for myself, but to me that was dangerous advice. it removed accountability for my actions. the only thing that helped was getting into new ac…
I think it's outright disrespectful to just assume people in such circumstances are just looking for external factors to step out of responsibility. Have you ever thought that they do want to make a move, but just cant because their minds are broken?
you cant apply the "you actually just have to step up and get out of your comfort zone" advice to people whose minds are severely altered by their condition. You fix the condition first, or give a remedy, then when they start to get a grip on things you move to making changes to get them out of the situation
thank god you only speak for yourself, please keep it that way