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Re: Ask HN: Need help monetizing our site - suggestions (pivot or otherwise) welcome

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What about integrating group organizer tools to keep organizers hanging around and using you. Like itenerary tools, ability to send out emails to the group about changes, tools for splitting up costs evenly, that sort of thing. If they use you to organize, they might use you to book. Also, question: you say it's difficult keeping track of commissions; if you did keep track of them well would that be enough money, or…

I'm not sure if you have seen our video on our website but we have certain features (e.g. - invoicing functionality and rooming list feature) in the group organiser's dashboard already. There are lots of features which we could potentially add down the line to add value to their overall offering.

We are essentially looking for an alternative revenue stream, because we are not converting enough groups through our website. We don't want to arrive at a situation where hotels aren't winning any business through our website. So we are essentially hoping to move away from commission to something else.

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Maybe charge a flat rate for ranges of people. That way you don't need to be exact. Charge the hotel $100 if 5-10 people booked and $250 if 11-20 booked, or whatever. Just make the math work out to be roughly what you'd make if things were exact. Maybe you can earn even more like this.

That's not a bad suggestion. However, it still doesn't overly help with conversions. If groups are coming onto our site for quotes and then going off directly to finalize the booking. We need to start increasing our conversion rate and thus increase the revenue we do generate through the site. However, a flat fee is not a bad idea as it does remove the issue of fluctuating numbers.

Yeah, my guess is your only focus should be on driving up demand. If you had thousands of people booking rooms it wouldn't be hard to make money off them. With small numbers it will probably never work that well.

Maybe you can come up with some new approach by just focusing purely on what it takes to get more people booking rooms. Maybe by offering deals (not just bidding), doing deals with conference organizers, etc.

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"Partner" with the hotels to offer them a higher ranking in terms of where they are displayed and the font size of their data.

Offering a priority listing is definitely something we have being considering. Thanks for the suggestion.

Go with sponsored search, its way more above board, people recognize it from Google and its easy to integrate into the search results (usually). That way you get commissions from people who book, you get money from people bidding on ads, and hopefully you can get commissions as a travel agent when people click through an ad.

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Are there any reasons why your conversion rates are low. Are there ways you could optimize your site to increase conversions.

Maybe you are heading in the wrong direction with advertising?It might be better to stay on the path you were going and focus on increasing conversions??Look at how booking.com and how they convert, might give you some ideas.

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Just an idea, but you could look at catering to the non-English speaking crowd. Specifically, the Chinese love to travel in big groups and they will usually skimp as much as they can on accommodation, in order to splurge on gifts and souvenirs. A cursory search turned up only very few sites that offer international hotels group buying options, even though group buying is extremely popular in China. Obviously, it would take you some time to understand the Chinese and their needs, but I'm pretty sure it'd pay off in the long run.

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Are you targeting the SME market?

1. Lots of companies bring their sales staff away on motivational trips. Phone them up, get all the details (you do all the leg work for them!.. take the pain out of organising/booking something like that).

2. You're in Ireland...target the London market.

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What about the model used by flightfox where the customer pay a fee upfront to find the best deal available? It would change a bit from what you are currently proposing but it could be a lead.

I know it can seem strange/hardcore at first but if you guarantee the best deal they can get, in the end you might make it work.

You could maybe offer this option at first and see how many people are willing to pay to ensure a good offer by hotel for a large group of people.

Re: Ask HN: Need help monetizing our site - suggestions (pivot or otherwise) welcome

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I think a major factor in conversions isn't that people are seeing offers and booking it themselves. The problem is that people sign up and fill out a form (and register) expecting to see prices right then, and instead have to wait at least an hour to see prices.

It may be better UX to show some hotels immediately via a hotel booking API and have very prominent messaging that they will receive lower offers within 24 hours. I'm already assuming you're emailing them with new offers (with tracking pixels) to determine if they're even opening, if they click through, and then what they do.

You should accept payments on your site... for several reasons.

1: Increase conversions - Not only because it's a quick and logical flow through the site, but also because you may be deal with people that don't want to talk to hotel agents on the phone and would rather get everything done online.

2: Know exactly how your business is doing - If you're just relying on the hotel to pay you the correct amount, you're leaving so much information about your business on the table. You can gather some, but informally. It'd be useful to know at what step people aren't converting, what is triggering changes, etc.

3: Shift responsibilities - Make the hotels invoice you.

4: Influx of capital. Paying hotels every month still makes it look like you have a lot of activity on the books. I dont know what your goal with the site is, but activity like this would be good to show to investors, interested buyers, etc.

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