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Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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post #8

Every time I create a Reddit account and try making a comment or a post I get banned instantly. Regardless of if I use a completely different device, email, ip. It's eerie.

It's pretty wild. Meanwhile bot farms just shuffle all identifiers.

They are actively harming human users in defense of their toxic mods & botters. Site is dying and they are the murderer.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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post #6

As toxic and awful as reddit is, unlike SO, Quora, etc. I don't see what people will move onto? SO -> Github Issues, LLMs Quora -> Medium/Substack/SO/SE /., Digg, Quora -> Reddit -> ?? I'd love something to replace reddit, but I can't find another platform that is as open (e.g. don't need an account), has the diversity of topics. The political (and sub-reddit) echo chambers are ridiculous though.

IMO the community will fracture in two directions. Reddit's differentiator over Instragram, twitter etc. is that it's community based rather than individual based (with the algo making psuedo communities) I feel some users will leach into platforms that created even more walled gardens, i.e. Discord, or platforms that reduce the sense of walled gardens i.e. Twitter.

Reddit seems to follow the psuedo community flow. In my account's feed, I started seeing communities of people's whose accounts I looked at (or maybe clicked into, but didn't follow).

Instead of platforms expecting the user to inform who/what to follow, they infer from user behaviors.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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post #8

Every time I create a Reddit account and try making a comment or a post I get banned instantly. Regardless of if I use a completely different device, email, ip. It's eerie.

It's pretty wild. Meanwhile bot farms just shuffle all identifiers. They are actively harming human users in defense of their toxic mods & botters. Site is dying and they are the murderer.

It's so annoying.

How do you let bots roam freely and yet you ban me?

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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post #2

I think Stack Overflow went dead because of AI specifically. The issues you mention just made that transition easier for people. Before AI, people had no choice but to suffer the toxic mods at Stack Overflow. Reddit isn't comparable, as AI has not replaced human opinion.

I think this was really the point where Stack Overflow died: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333965/firing-mods-...

This was the "stage 4 cancer" point of no return. Statistically, it chugged on for a while, and then the dips happened and people just blamed AI, when it was really just a zombie past this point.

Quora is still going on strong despite AI.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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Well, they're a public company. They have to adhere to government-imposed standards (US, EU, and other jurisdictions too). Although I don't think they self-imposed curation, this is their current policy. Some subs get banned for no good reason, even when they were very valuable (e.g., a local financial subreddit was wiped out for reasons unknown, despite providing a better overview of how laws are applied than official sources) so mods inevitably get scared their sub may be next and start being more 'conservative'. This ends up creating hive minds and echo chambers. Anything that would come to replace Reddit (although I don't exactly see what could replace it) will be a victim of its own success at some point and will exhibit the same traits too.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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Unlike Stackoverflow, you can create another subreddit with different moderation.

For example there is an official Peloton subreddit. There is also one that’s looser and more free wheeling (OnePelotonSub). Some communities have circle jerk versions. Or ones that are more or less AI content friendly.

Stack exchange got stuck in a rigid, strict moderation regime. Which maybe makes sense for only one kind of community.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stack Overflow is dead because of AI. Devs can get quicker answers with less hassle with AI. Without AI there is no other option for amateur devs to get answers, so Stack Overflow would otherwise still be used. This isn't difficult logic.

Then explain the usage chart declining since ~2015? As I said in my original post, LLM was the final nail in the coffin. I'm not arguing they aren't related. I'm saying they SO was falling long before LLM's took over. This isn't difficult logic.

SO falling before AI doesn't preclude AI killing SO. You aren't listening to anything I've been saying. Your graph is meaningless. If it wasn't for AI, SO would still be used. It isn't more complicated than that.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit going the way of Stack Overflow?

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What I worry about is how much of it is bots. It lost some value to me as it went from thinking the majority of interactions / posts were from people to actually realizing it's from bots from engagement.

It got very political everywhere too, which I assume gets clicks and are a favourite of bot farms

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