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Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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It would be cool to do some evening shifts at a restaurant, for the novelty and the social aspect (compared with staring at a screen all day)... plus the work is cognitively very simplistic... quite relaxing compared to corporate life. The problem is, if I have a day job as an engineer, my regular income puts me in a high tax bracket. So, not only would I be earning close to minimum wage, I would be taxed at the high…

Would some cook/work for discounts scheme be possible from a tax perspective? Something like, you work for x hours and bring y friends or coworkers then get a z discount?

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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How would that work? Am I taking a vacation day from my corporate job so I can make $12/hr bussing tables? I’m not sure why I’d ever want to do that. What would happen is this app would just turn into another form of gig work for unemployed people, and it would be a nightmare. Imagine going to a restaurant and no one knows what they’re doing, because they’re only there for a day. The restaurant would probably lose mo…

This exists for bartenders. https://www.shiftnow.com/blog/bartender-gig-apps

That's for experienced bartenders to find new gigs. A lot service industry jobs have similar networks to help match a supply/demand mismatch.

The parent comment was asking why someone with a 'desk job', often making >$100/hr, would knock off work to go make a fraction of the hourly pay for significantly harder work.

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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post #6

It would be cool to do some evening shifts at a restaurant, for the novelty and the social aspect (compared with staring at a screen all day)... plus the work is cognitively very simplistic... quite relaxing compared to corporate life. The problem is, if I have a day job as an engineer, my regular income puts me in a high tax bracket. So, not only would I be earning close to minimum wage, I would be taxed at the high…

I worked both front and back of house in restaurants in high school and college. It is true that the work is cognitively simple, but there is nothing relaxing about the work. Even if you could do the work tax-free, I assure you, you don't want to do it if you do not have to.

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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I always thought about picking up some physically demanding job on weekends (like carrying boxes or something like that). It would serve me as exercise and I would get paid. Problem is i’m picky about the timing (e.g., not early in the morning, not when it’s hot, etc.)

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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Absolutely!

When I was in my twenties, a friend of mine had a catering lease at a golf club. I never worked seriously in the catering industry, but I always enjoyed helping out there (in service, in the warehouse, in the kitchen). It was a welcome change from constantly staring at a screen, and at the end of the day, it was a different kind of tiredness (the physical kind, you know).

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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post #15

I always thought about picking up some physically demanding job on weekends (like carrying boxes or something like that). It would serve me as exercise and I would get paid. Problem is i’m picky about the timing (e.g., not early in the morning, not when it’s hot, etc.)

Part time UPS package handler.

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

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They're struggling with employee turnover because the boss won't pay competitive wages. Why won't the boss pay competitive wages? I have some ideas, but rather than project I'll just say that's the problem to solve.

Because they have customers that say if you raise prices they will stop eating there

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

#19
I have friends who have done stuff like this for fun.

Not for the money.

For example, one roommate of mine had a good day job, but would work thursday nights as a waiter at a high-end restaurant. He enjoyed talking to people. He also enjoyed convincing people to try higher priced treats.

I almost did the same thing with bartending when I was young. A bartender I knew talked me out of it, saying there was a dark side with lots of habitual alcoholics and more.

Re: Ask HN: Would you swap your desk for a restaurant shift?

#20

They're struggling with employee turnover because the boss won't pay competitive wages. Why won't the boss pay competitive wages? I have some ideas, but rather than project I'll just say that's the problem to solve.

I ran a coffee cart once. The money simply doesn't add up unless you have economy of scale like Starbucks.

In software, you're being paid to work on a project that loses millions of dollars per year, until it becomes a unicorn then starts to make millions of dollars per week. A guy who can improve ad click rates by 0.1% is worth several millions. Even without the economy of scale, the profit margin is 90%

In the food industry, you're buying a steak for $10, selling it for $20. But there's labor, rent, utilities, etc. Very often it boils down to $18 costs for a $20 steak.

But your competitor just quit his job to become his own boss. His dad and wife thinks he's an idiot and should just stick with the corporate job. They all put down half a million dollars on the restaurant. The numbers differ, but it's usually half the price of large house in the area. He's losing $1000 per month, but on some months he makes $2000. He'll probably get divorced if he calls it quits, so he's plodding on hoping for more profitable months. He works 14 hour shifts with his wife and will do so until he's 70.

Some of these people are immigrants. Home might be at war. They have no way back and no other skills than cooking. The kids go to school and come home and prep stuff in the kitchen. They're not playing games or chatting on the internet. They're helping mom and dad eat.

In a free market, restaurants are the losers. They're the least efficient way to turn time into money. Even washing cars has a better profit margin.

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