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Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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Job market is hell, but the startup market is hot. If you can build things, you might want to just pick up an AI coding tool, build a micro-saas, and pitch it. Or keep building up your tool, sell it. This can be done within a month full time if you have some dev experience.

"Ideally I would like time to prepare adequately for interviews and really think about what I want to do next"

The question is prepare for what? Hackerrank is fast going out the window. Every company that wants to raise money needs to be an AI company so they're not going to tell you not to use AI during the interview. You can screenshot questions, paste it into a deprecated AI model, and it'll spit out the exact answer.

Using the AI tools if you haven't might also get you your next job. I think interviews might just be falling back to the classic "build the hardest feature we plan to add", and AI means you get to do in a day what would take a month to do before this.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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I think a lot of people feel the same way. Not to say that I'm in a comparable situation -- I also want to leave, but there are good days and bad days and I don't feel nearly as economically comfortable as I'd like to leave, etc etc. I guess a response question to you, OP, how bad is the job if you just start doing less? It's not like you care about promotion chances or long term outcomes, so just do exactly what's a…

It’s pretty difficult because my manager is very incompetent and micro manages everything, he has called my personal phone after hours many times asking about things

The pertinent question is about your company as a whole. If it wasn't for your manager would you be content to stay?

If "yes", then blacklist his number and never answer after hours. When asked to do something different always explain how that affects the other work in progress. Only work 8 hours or whatever you are contracted to do. If your manager kicks up a fuss, then go to the next level and/or HR. Refuse to be demeaned. Of course, you could get fired, but then your manager might get fired for his incompetence. It is a risk. But taking the "I don't give a F**! FAFO" attitude makes you feel more in control.

I speak from experience. I once had a managing director give me a hard time, I blew up on him and waited for what I thought was the inevitable termination. A week later, and most unexpectedly the firm's partners fired the MD.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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Do it!

I was in your situation in 2023 and decided to quit without a job lined up. I rested for 2 months and then, out of nowhere, I had energy and motivation to start exercising again and start working on my mental health (with the help of a therapist/professional coach). I would recommend to have one single expectation if you decide to quit: rest.

All in all, quitting the toxic workplace and taking time off was the best thing I’ve ever done.

It took me 7 months to get an offer, 9 to actually start working.

Be prepared to be out of work for ~1 year.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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I took a break from work for family reasons for 2 years and started looking for jobs earlier this year (I have 10+ years of experience) and I had a really hard time finding a job. Attended a ton of interviews, 2 times companies started the offer process and pulled back in the middle and I had to ultimately reach out to connections from old jobs to get hired. In my experience, it has never been this hard to get a job.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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> I’m just really burned out and don’t have the mental energy to come home from a 10 hour day and start preparing for interviews.

Have you considered not doing 10 hour days? I know it sounds silly but nobody is forcing you to do that. I mean what’s the worst that could happen?

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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I took a break from work for family reasons for 2 years and started looking for jobs earlier this year (I have 10+ years of experience) and I had a really hard time finding a job. Attended a ton of interviews, 2 times companies started the offer process and pulled back in the middle and I had to ultimately reach out to connections from old jobs to get hired. In my experience, it has never been this hard to get a job.

I had to ultimately reach out to connections from old jobs

That’s usually the best place to start.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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I took a break from work for family reasons for 2 years and started looking for jobs earlier this year (I have 10+ years of experience) and I had a really hard time finding a job. Attended a ton of interviews, 2 times companies started the offer process and pulled back in the middle and I had to ultimately reach out to connections from old jobs to get hired. In my experience, it has never been this hard to get a job.

I had to ultimately reach out to connections from old jobs That’s usually the best place to start.

I understand that now. Previously never really had much trouble getting hired so wasted a lot of time instead of reaching out to my network from the start.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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I’ve done that right before the market downshift in 2023. I’ve spent 3 months doing nothing, travelled to a bunch of cities that I’ve never been to, did tons of works in my own projects (both open and closed source), and actually managed to launch one that is still going.

Honestly, this in-between period was one of the most personally rewarding times I’ve ever had in my career, I was feeling great, I was waking up in the morning and coding for a hour before I even had coffee, I had good humor for such a long stretch of time that even people I don’t talk to daily started to notice.

But, despite that, actually looking for a new job was soul crushing. I had a spreadsheet to track applications, and the rows just kept piling up, interviews were not happening, when they were happening I got ghosted dozens of times, when I didn’t get ghosted, the code interviews were absolutely ridiculous is all sorts of ways, even I passed code testings companies paused hirings, when I finally got to the last step they’d say culture didn’t align. I got a job after 7 months and 137 applications. It was TERRIBLE, the feeling of hopelessness, the feeling that there is no future, the feeling that your entire 20+ year career is useless and the fear you’ll never find a job again. I don’t wish that on anyone.

In the end there are bills to be paid, and you can’t stay unemployed forever, so the reality means you have to thread this carefully. It sounds counterproductive and it is hard, but concentrate less on work, spend time doing things you want, and do not go out for interviews just yet. On top of having a shitty job, you’ll also have shitty evenings because you’ll get to this same soul crushing realization of mine.

Do the minimum acceptable at work, cut hours, take vacation, whatever that keeps you employed, and spend any energy you have left doing things you want. Workout, that pet project that hadn’t seen any love, binging Netflix, whatever you mind tells you to do. As long as it doesn’t get worse than it is, it is a win. You are going to leave the company anyway (either voluntarily or not), might as well stockpile some money if you can. The goal is to get better _despite_ the shitty job, to improve yourself while you are still getting paid.

Also important: go looking for social support, like lunch with friends and old coworkers, therapy, some meetups on subjects you have interest, whatever you can to talk to people. Mildly venting off helps, just make sure to not overdo and also listen.

Re: Ask HN: Want to leave my job with nothing lined up

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Do it! I was in your situation in 2023 and decided to quit without a job lined up. I rested for 2 months and then, out of nowhere, I had energy and motivation to start exercising again and start working on my mental health (with the help of a therapist/professional coach). I would recommend to have one single expectation if you decide to quit: rest. All in all, quitting the toxic workplace and taking time off was the…

way more than 1 year now. double your cushion if you can stand it
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