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Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

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Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#11
> code reviews, sprints and constant deadlines.

Don't accept a job where teams do Scrum.

Scrum is an anxiety-inducing never-ending marathon. If people without anxiety make it work for them, great - but it doesn't work for me, so I reject it.

More broadly speaking, figure out if you have other boundaries you need to set, and make discovery of whether or not those boundaries would be crossed a part of any interview process. Decline jobs that cross them.

I find that smaller companies outside of the startup world are better. Look for bootstrapped small software shops, or an internal IT department of a non-tech company. Find a place where you are helping the business run, but not directly producing the product that defines the business. Or work on enterprise platforms - Salesforce, SAP, etc. Such platforms tend to need work more along the lines of configuration, scripting, and data updates, which results in a different type and pace of work.

Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#12
This helps me: don't do social media or any news or any thumb-memory-based anything in the morning. Don't grab your phone first thing. Just let your mind slowly warm up to work -- the legit work that you need to do. When your brain is pulled in many directions it feels overwhelmed, and starting the day that way compounds it.

Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#16
Have you discussed this with your doctor? If not, I would schedule an appointment ASAP. It's possible that medication might be able to help significantly. If it does help, it could be that it helps you enough to turn things into a more manageable situation at work. This might not be your long-term optimal solution, but it could make life less miserable until you do find your long-term optimal.

Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#17
The ACT approach worked for me. It's compatible with CBT, but with a different emphasis. The following names may help:

Claire Weekes, who somebody else in this thread recommended. She's the pioneer of the approach. She wrote mainly in the mid-20th century but her work is still accessible.

Also look at Kevin Majeres' work, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGa-jQJazpY

Also look at the DARE Approach to anxiety: https://www.youtube.com/@DareResponse

They all say variations of the same thing, which is that you need to train your brain not to fear your anxiety.

This approach ought to be the standard -- it really works, and is well-demonstrated in the literature.

Also exercise every day, or as often as you can. Both weight-training and cardio are good. Swimming is excellent.

Don't spend much time analysing some deep-seated reason for your anxiety. A little bit is fine, but going too deep is a waste of time, and can actually make it worse. You want to train the rational part of your brain to disregard the anxiety signals coming from your amygdla; and over time, the amygdla's messages will become less and less intense. If you spend time thinking 'why why why am I feeling this way?', your brain starts treating the anxiety signals as important, which is the opposite of what you want.

I would strongly recommend against changing careers. You will not be making good decisions while anxious, and other careers will not be less stressful.

Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#18

> code reviews, sprints and constant deadlines. Don't accept a job where teams do Scrum. Scrum is an anxiety-inducing never-ending marathon. If people without anxiety make it work for them, great - but it doesn't work for me, so I reject it. More broadly speaking, figure out if you have other boundaries you need to set, and make discovery of whether or not those boundaries would be crossed a part of any interview pro…

As a concept it feels like it should be obvious, you can’t expect a runner to sprint consistently, sure in a world where the farther they run the more money you make its ideal if they could but it just isn’t how the human body works, they will eventually slow down or otherwise call it quits.

I fundamentally believe the same is true of SWEs, you can’t get more out of people than they have long-term by telling them they ought to be “sprinting,” yet if you ask me that’s the concept being pushed.

Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#19
This sounds a lot like me. I have a disability that contributes to this. It's possible you could ask for accommodations to lower the pressure, such as async code reviews or something.

On a side note, what they put in the posting about being "fast paced" and stuff is almost always fluff. I don't know of any slow paced dev jobs, but the degree of pace doesn't seem to be correlated to the use of "fast paced" in the posting. It seems random.

I feel like I'll probably get fired and end up working at Walmart. Hope you have better luck.

Re: Ask HN: Struggling with Anxiety as a Developer – What Are My Options?

#20
Throw away.

Most of the advice you will get is wrong. Not bad-wrong but waste-your-years-doing-100-useless-stuff-wrong. Most solutions attempt to be a cookie-cutter which fits all. Anxiety is body's natural response to an environment. Your job was not the problem. How you thought you were supposed to work - was the real activator. Even if you find a healthy job, you will yearn that "high" from the stress.

Once anxiety is part of you, no medication or meditation can make it just disappear. It will be carried in your genes. You are may be carrying it from your grand grand parents too .

Good news is that you dont have to be affected by your anxiety. If you learn to accept it as part of your natural response, you will calm it down . Use a good meditation app - not the Silicon Valley ones. You may try various therapies to see what you like. But avoid professionals.

The answer does not require you to spend 1$. Even the richest may not treat anxiety in their lives. More money you spend, worse it may get for you.

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