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Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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I've always assumed that Google ads subsidises everything else at Google. So my concern with a split would be YouTube increasing price or less investment in the service.

I'd pay a modest fee for a non-tracking, ad-free, non-enshittified YouTube though. Compete for my money!

Like Youtube Premium? https://www.youtube.com/premium

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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I've always assumed that Google ads subsidises everything else at Google. So my concern with a split would be YouTube increasing price or less investment in the service.

I have a hard time imagining that youtube is subsidized given the ridiculous number of obnoxious ads you're forced to watch and the steep price of removing them. Surely if they were subsidized this wouldn't be worth the cost of ruining their product.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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post #4

I've always assumed that Google ads subsidises everything else at Google. So my concern with a split would be YouTube increasing price or less investment in the service.

I'd pay a modest fee for a non-tracking, ad-free, non-enshittified YouTube though. Compete for my money!

There are options for you, like Floatplane and Nebula. The problem is universal - their curated content has limited appeal. The YouTube model is more attractive to people, so more people upload content to a larger audience. I have no confidence that a paid-only platform could reach 1/100th of the traffic YouTube gets in a similar timespan.

As a customer you really just have to ask yourself what you're willing to give up when paying for a YouTube analog. Content creators aren't going to engage in a mass exodus unless they're convinced their audience will follow them to other platforms.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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Search of youtube is absolutely horrendous so I don't see any additional harm to from splitting them. And of course the benefits are so large as to be difficult to enumerate.

What’s horrendous about it in particular?

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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post #4

I've always assumed that Google ads subsidises everything else at Google. So my concern with a split would be YouTube increasing price or less investment in the service.

Youtube just had the revenue of $8.92 billion where the total was $88.27 billion. Not a small number. Is there any information how much is profit from that Youtube part?

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd pay a modest fee for a non-tracking, ad-free, non-enshittified YouTube though. Compete for my money!

Like Youtube Premium? https://www.youtube.com/premium

Does it remove tracking and returns the dislike button?

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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Search of youtube is absolutely horrendous so I don't see any additional harm to from splitting them. And of course the benefits are so large as to be difficult to enumerate.

What’s horrendous about it in particular?

I suppose I don't have particulars to complain about. It's simply never worked unless I had a very, very specific video in mind to look for that I could tailor my query to. Instead I just see popular videos.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd pay a modest fee for a non-tracking, ad-free, non-enshittified YouTube though. Compete for my money!

Like Youtube Premium? https://www.youtube.com/premium

No. I prefer newpipe
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