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Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

Thanks for asking this question! I asked this a couple of weeks ago (Ask HN: What's a Good Alternative to WordPress https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41731867) and I hope people keep the discussion up.

I was also hoping that Ghost would become much larger than it has.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by azangru »

> What's the best alternative to WordPress

To do what?

For blogs, static-site generators (Eleventy, Astro, or Hugo). For CMS, a combination of a headless CMS with something on the front (e.g. Eleventy + CloudCannon). For ecommerce, dunno, Shopify?

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by hggigg »

If I was going to bother now I'd start at static content and work back from that to a solution. Be that a static site generator or another tool which is scraped into static, but nothing you have to host anywhere other than a cheap CDN. The maintenance overhead of CMS platforms over the years have been a killer and the attack surface awful.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by legitster »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #8

Is Drupal still a thing? I have always considered Drupal to be a pretty industrial-strength system, but quite complex. One of the nice things about Drupal, is that you could customize the backend. I have always hated WP's backend.

Drupal is very popular with major enterprises, but it doesn't have the same ability to stand up sites quickly with plug-and-play features and update them automatically.

> you could customize the backend. I have always hated WP's backend.

Ironically, this is something the Wordpress Foundation has made worse over the years.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by mortenjorck »

pathartl wrote: post #10

I've moved my personal site/blog over to Grav. I've done some small work with Statamic before and loved it.

For a small site with relatively technical administration, Grav is unsurpassed. I've been using it for years for my portfolio and various side projects, and it is a joy to build with.

For a larger site with multiple contributors, I'd probably still stick to Wordpress, though. Its admin experience and ecosystem are just too mature to not take advantage of.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by ozten »

This space grew into a bunch of different sub-cutures:

- static website generators (Hugo, etc)

- WYSIWYG editors (Wix, Squarespace)

- Frontends (NextJs, etc) backed by Headless CMS (Strapi, firebase, etc)

There really isn't a good spiritual successor currently. Someone should clone the UX of WP Admin panel, plugins, etc and drop the worst tech debt. Base it on React and make it really easy to deploy.

(edit: formatting)

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by legitster »

runjake wrote: post #4

Recent similar Ask HNs with discussion: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=fa... I think it'd best to just stay. I see one of two likely things happening: 1. Matt comes to his senses and formally secedes his control of the WordPress Foundation and WordPress OSS to a qualified group of people. 2. He doesn't and the project gets forked to something that gets traction and will be immediately compa…

I think there's a realistic future where Matt steps away and things go back to being okay. As we've learned, the Foundation is intrinsically integrated with himself and Automattic. And the backdoors they have into authentication and plugins and etc are deeper than we expected.

Matt would basically have to sell the company and the only buyer would be... cough cough ... private equity!

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