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Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#11
In the US, the only ones I can think of are companies like McDonalds or Food Markets.

I know one company that does not fit that bill, IBM. In last April they had a lay-off, I heard from friends who worked there, the only people let go in their Dept were all over 50. Do a search and you will see many articles about that.

I wish you luck

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#12
As a proxy for this consider companies that have better benefits in areas that'd favor middle age / older populations. Example:

Better maternity / paternity benefits: https://www.levels.fyi/benefits/Maternity-Leave/

Sabbatical programs often kick in after a certain number of years. A more structured program could indicate being more receptive to higher tenure / older populations: https://www.levels.fyi/benefits/Sabbatical/

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#13

You want old finance companies. In fact any company older that 30 probably won't care. I'm not a grey hair yet, but I actively hate startups. We aren't changing the world, we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

s/photos/ads and you got it

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#14

Avalara didn't seem to be overtly ageist. Plenty of kids in their 30s. Smattering of tech workers in their 50s. They seem to be off-shoring most of their tech work though.

> Plenty of kids in their 30s.

Did I miss the memo on who is considered a kid these days?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#15
post #11

In the US, the only ones I can think of are companies like McDonalds or Food Markets. I know one company that does not fit that bill, IBM. In last April they had a lay-off, I heard from friends who worked there, the only people let go in their Dept were all over 50. Do a search and you will see many articles about that. I wish you luck

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#16

Avalara didn't seem to be overtly ageist. Plenty of kids in their 30s. Smattering of tech workers in their 50s. They seem to be off-shoring most of their tech work though.

> Plenty of kids in their 30s. Did I miss the memo on who is considered a kid these days?

A kid is anyone 40% younger than you

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#17
You could add just about any University to the list. At least in California, many UC IT people left due to poor pay and long hours, however the UTPE CWA 9119 union has grown in numbers and strength and the trend in pay and hours is quickly improving.

There's plenty of gray beards, the UC is starving for seasoned talent, and the HMO plans are inexpensive and cover a lot -- 5 years to vest in the pension that matches nearly 100% and you can take distributions starting at age 50.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

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In the United States, any ageism will usually exist at an administrative/personal level. Age is an equal-opportunity attribute that cannot be legally discriminated against, so on paper all of them will technically claim to be "friendly". I don't know how you'd really compile a list like that any more than you'd make a "junior friendly" hiring list.

Same as any other $IMMUTABLE_CHARACTERISTIC-friendly company. I would think that any such statements might be mostly meaningless. It's really hard to say. You can't even rely on the apparent age of senior management as a rough guide.

I don't think meaningless is the right word. It would be deeply meaningful for a woman to know if a company is inclusive to her needs, for someone of color to know if a company isn't racist, etc.

The information is sensitive and damages companies reputation who are explicitly not on the list. Except maybe, these days, if a company wants to be known for its non-wokeness or such nonsense. Maybe one of Musk companies?

However, I do think this is an opportunity for sites like glassdoor.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#19

You want old finance companies. In fact any company older that 30 probably won't care. I'm not a grey hair yet, but I actively hate startups. We aren't changing the world, we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

> I actively hate startups

Have you asked yourself why you hang out on this website given how you feel about startups?

Also, is it really fair to apply such a strong statement to all startups? Look at your screen and the browser you're using, the user interface concepts, the computer itself. Where do you think those came from?

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