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Ask HN: Why isn't Laravel used in more enterprise apps?

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Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Laravel used in more enterprise apps?

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You got the standards replies and maybe they are true. Me, I rationally agree with those replies but my insticts tell me that it is because in an enterprise setting managers don't want what works best, they want what can cover their ass best. Java and .net do that. If you as a manager use laravel and save the company tens of thousands, nobody gives a crap. If you use laravel and things go wrong, even if things would…

I agree. Context matters and what can be hard for small devs and startups to understand is that enterprise has different goals, resources and constraints.

You'll see people promoting Laravel as faster and cheaper than say C#. For places that value faster and cheaper that's good.

Enterprise isn't cash constrained. Cheaper is not a goal. (Saving "thousands " isn't helpful when the bottom lines are in millions or billions.)

Enterprise isn't time constrained. (Sure they always make like it is, but in reality if this thing doesn't ship tomorrow it's no biggie.

Enterprise is all about risk management. You don't get fired for "buying IBM". Enterprise wants a steady pool of developers. They want to call the local (or more likely foreign) body shop and add 10 people.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Laravel used in more enterprise apps?

#12

You got the standards replies and maybe they are true. Me, I rationally agree with those replies but my insticts tell me that it is because in an enterprise setting managers don't want what works best, they want what can cover their ass best. Java and .net do that. If you as a manager use laravel and save the company tens of thousands, nobody gives a crap. If you use laravel and things go wrong, even if things would…

I agree. Context matters and what can be hard for small devs and startups to understand is that enterprise has different goals, resources and constraints. You'll see people promoting Laravel as faster and cheaper than say C#. For places that value faster and cheaper that's good. Enterprise isn't cash constrained. Cheaper is not a goal. (Saving "thousands " isn't helpful when the bottom lines are in millions or billio…

> You'll see people promoting Laravel as faster and cheaper than say C#

Faster in what way? Cheaper in what way?

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Laravel used in more enterprise apps?

#14

Because it is hard to install php without LAMP.

You really need to check out Herd (Local) and Forge/Vapor (AWS) you'll never say hard to install again.

With Laravel I can go from 0 to new web app in production in 15 Minutes

I can register a new domain, point name servers to CloudFlare.

Setup my local env with Herd from scratch, build a server with Forge, point A record to server IP. Setup SSL cert with Forge/Let's Encrypt.

Start a new laravel project, use jetstream to setup an app with users, auth, 2FA and a dashboard. Create a new GitHub Repo, deploy my code to the new server through Forge.

Create a new user through the UI, Login with 2FA, view Dashboard.

Give me 30 minutes and I can setup a Load Balancer, multiple app and worker servers.

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