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Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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You don't "develop late-onset ADHD" - you either have ADHD or you don't, it's a genetic condition (one of your parents had it). You have to fit the DMS criteria of having childhood symptoms, and they will want to speak to relatives and friends who can confirm this. Burnout can cause AuDHD traits but you don't catch anything - likely taking time to recover will be better than trying medication - for a start you have t…

It’s often not diagnosed or diagnosed as another problem and is difficult to diagnose later.

I have a friend who discovered that ADHD was the root of a bunch of issues. They had developed some coping strategies organically that were contributing to other issues. Diagnosis and therapy made a dramatic improvement in their life.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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You don't "develop late-onset ADHD" - you either have ADHD or you don't, it's a genetic condition (one of your parents had it). You have to fit the DMS criteria of having childhood symptoms, and they will want to speak to relatives and friends who can confirm this. Burnout can cause AuDHD traits but you don't catch anything - likely taking time to recover will be better than trying medication - for a start you have t…

I found out with 38 years old, but I always felt different since childhood, why the memorization in school was bad, to be bad at writing texts, and my second kid got diagnosed, so it made me search more about it.

I am doing 30 mg of Paroxetine, but doesn't seem great. Lots of low dopamine and procrastination.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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I was diagnosed at 34, primarily inattentive type.

Prior to that, I could excel in academics and my career IFF it was interesting or challenging. When it wasn’t, I couldn’t bring myself to focus. After diagnosis and medication, suddenly I could just do stuff. The best part is that my ability to hyper-focus on interesting work didn’t diminish, something I think most people fear when starting medication for ADHD.

I started on Adderall XR, which worked fine for a while. A better way to say that would be that I got used to feeling normal, and so was more aware of when I wasn’t. I noticed that it was wearing off right when I needed it the most, mid-late afternoon. In theory it’s a 12 hour release, but my psych said most people don’t experience that.

So, I shifted to Mydayis, which is the exact same drug, but with a triple release so it lasts longer. They claim 16 hours; IME it’s more like 10, but YMMV.

The other thing to be aware of is that depression is often correlated with ADHD. I was diagnosed with mild depression, but didn’t really think it was a big deal (I felt happy enough), so I didn’t treat it. Then this last winter came. I’ve been aware that I have seasonal affective disorder for years, and have always treated it with Vitamin D supplements. That didn’t work this year. I then bought a light therapy box, which also didn’t work. I already exercise regularly, so that wasn’t it either. I went back to my psych, who recommended Wellbutrin XL, at the smallest dose. As an aside, this also has an off-label use for treating ADHD if you’d rather not use stimulants. After precisely 13 days of being on it, I realized I did not feel mopey, despite it being a gloomy day. It was incredible.

I tried coming off Wellbutrin this spring, and it did not go well. My thought, and my wife’s, is that I had forgotten my previous baseline mood, and so it was a shock to realize the difference. AFAIK, and according to my psych, there are no known long-term effects from Wellbutrin, and I’ve exhibited zero of the known side effects, so I’m just on it for the foreseeable future.

Hope that helps, and I hope you seek professional help. Anecdotes are great for getting a variety of opinions, but they’re no substitute for a trained medical professional.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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I was diagnosed with ADHD in my early twenties during university and didn't manage to get medicated until 3 years later (The queue was quite long and I ended up getting a prescription from a private doctor in my home country)

I think it became really obvious to me when I would require a ton of discipline to do assignments around making applications, but doing something like configuring linux from scratch was so personally interesting to me I could stay up nights and days without any external stimulation.

I found that medication (Methylphendiate 20mg) have definitely helped me focus, but the direction of what I'm focusing doesn't always yield productive results (hyperfocusing on reddit for example). I've also started worring that what I've really done is created a dependence, where eventually ill have to up the dose as what I'm currently on will make me feel like I did pre meds, and stopping will make me feel worse.

I hope you find a treatment that works for you OP, but I agree with other comments that you might have just discovered you have had ADHD all this time because its not 'onset'.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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I was diagnosed at university. Around my freshman year, which is over 10 years ago. In my country there were not many ADHD specialists and medications in circulation at first, mostly atomoxetine was used, but it made me sick (nausea, stomach pain). Eventually Concerta was introduced to the local market and things got much better with it.

After migrating to Europe, I was re-diagnosed by a good specialist with all the right methodologies and then got prescriptions for Elvanse (in the US it's kind of like Vyvanse, I think) 30mg and clonazepam 1mg to control anxiety.

Been taking it for a couple years now, works pretty well.

Not so long ago I have seen studies on which Elvanse is considered almost the best drug among analogs, so I can only recommend it. It is quite mild and has a long release.

From personal experience: it is better to refrain from coffee and caffeinated drinks in general when taking medication.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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The best thing for my ADHD has been finding the right professionals to help me diagnose and manage it. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but I get the suspicion that you (or certainly others reading this thread) will take this information to try to self-treat.

I've never heard of "late-onset" ADHD. Late-diagnosed, absolutely (I was diagnosed while I was in university), but to my knowledge there are no identified environmental causes that would cause ADHD to develop later in life. Professionals can help you determine whether you in fact have ADHD that was not diagnosed until now, or whether there are other factors.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid. Medication made me extremely miserable and tried it again as an adult and it still made me miserable (made me focused, but completely on the wrong things).

There are a lot of coping mechanisms that can help. Taking notes, leaving your phone behind, etc. I also switched from coffee to tea which helps a lot.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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Completely agree with mnky9800n and tanepiper as well. I was diagnosed when I was 32 when suffering from a burnout. It surprised me how thorough the research was on "do I have it or not". Childhood records were needed and my parents were shortly questioned about my behaviour as a kid.

For the medication, I currently don't use it. I tried some stimulants, but I have a non-operable arrhythmia (the good kind) situation which got worse every time I took the meds. With the help of therapy and my closed ones I've become better at regulating my emotions, so I don't feel the need to take medication. I still have some periods of hyperfocus or periods where my attention is certainly just all over the place, but then I just try to focus on stuff that is good to do when in those periods. Kind of stopped trying to force myself, a square peg, to fit through a triangle hole.

Re: Ask HN: Discuss ADHD and your use of medication

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I was diagnosed at university. Around my freshman year, which is over 10 years ago. In my country there were not many ADHD specialists and medications in circulation at first, mostly atomoxetine was used, but it made me sick (nausea, stomach pain). Eventually Concerta was introduced to the local market and things got much better with it. After migrating to Europe, I was re-diagnosed by a good specialist with all the…

Ah, btw, hope it will be useful (just personal exp)

I have tried different sleep medications, but the one that worked best for me was Mirtazapine. Although it is an atypical tetracyclic antidepressant, it works well before bedtime, plus it can be taken not regularly, but only when needed.

My doctor and I tried escitalopram (lexapro?) and setraline, but the former turned me into a sleepy vegetable 18 hours a day, I could stay in bed all day, or even all week, even with the lowest dosage. The second one had no effect at all, whether I drank it or not.

I also tried Quetiapine for sleep, it has a plus in that it does not cause any dependence and it is easy to stop taking it, but its effectiveness is so bad, although it is better than nothing if you have terrible problems with sleep.

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