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Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

#11
Try to think of ways that coding may improve your current job and the day-to-day tasks involved. I strongly feel that when you are motivated by a thing you actually want or need, then it helps make learning go easier.

For example, my brother works in sales/account mgmt, but was able to dip his toes into writing some Python scripts to automate some repetitive tasks.

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

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I've spent a lot of time thinking about this topic and I've come to the conclusion that the best generic advice for folks in your situation is to be under-employed, ie a job where you're not maxed out mentally/emotionally/physically, and save your resources to learn on your own. Entry-level technical jobs are some of the worst jobs to help you ramp up as a programmer. It's chaotic, demanding, emotionally taxing, and…

I agree. I don't think anyone can get a job not knowing anything.

It's best to keep up your energy and learn on your own time and interest.

Pick projects that you're interested in. A website, a small little todo app, a small game. These introduce fundamentals in a setting you enjoy. You'll do a ton of things wrong, know you did them wrong, and the recognition of that provides all the next steps you need.

Five to ten projects later, you'll be ready to start taking some small jobs. Open source tickets. Charity work.

Do this a little bit longer and you'll be set.

It's fundamentally about doing projects you enjoy though. You need to take interest and defend that interest long enough to overcome the stresses and the road bumps.

You can do it!

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

#13

Contribute to open source. Alot of projects have a "Good First Issue" tag. This will give you actual work you can show. I have known people who were hired on the basis of their GitHub contributions alone, where the employer said not to worry about sending in a Resume.

This is harder said than done, at least one some situations. The most ideal situation is where you are using a app, tool or a library, you find a bug or missing feature and you "scratch an itch" using your knowledge of the app, tool or library and software development.

Asking a novice to trawl the open internet or github looking for "good first issue" isn't a high probability road to success. Sure some may succeed, but likely most (I'm guessing here, I don't have actual numbers) will succumb to any number of barriers or deterrents that will end up giving them little or even negative benefit.

Here's a video, with a very unfortunate clickbaity title, that gives more info about the issues with suggesting "good first issue" type work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nY_cy8zcO4

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

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I'd try to get a job where the title is actually Web Developer or Software Engineer but at a lower tier less competitive company. That way you can use it on your resume to pivot to a better paid role, and the work will be similar just with lower standards, you can learn the standards yourself and apply them even if your coworkers aren't the greatest role models. People get kind of pigeon holed in QA for some reason in my experience.

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

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For what it's worth, I went to a coding bootcamp in 2012. From there, I found people who were willing to pay me money to do software development as a Freelancer.

I did countless events, I listed my services in local blogs.

This leadup to becoming CTO of a startup. 8 years later here we are.

This was in Chicago.

It was one of the best decisions I ever made.

I also did an iOS bootcamp in 2014, mostly because clients kept asking for mobile and I didn't like the hybrid mobile platforms.

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

#18
Don't try getting into QA in a hope to move to software engineering. It does not work well and QA line in the CV could easily make it toxic for much more interesting areas.

Instead take some full Uni course (bachelor min) in Computer Science or Software Engineering. That is the right way.

Why do you want from moving to coding from the paralegal? It has probably much lower financial bounds comparing to paralegal, with similarly high stress and very long working hours.

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

#19

Dupe of the same post by the same author yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39282349 I'm glad this one is getting more traction. Can we merge the posts, though?

Oops, my bad - I was having issues with posting yesterday so wasn't sure it went through. Should I ask the mods?

Re: Ask HN: Best "entry tech" jobs to learn coding?

#20

Dupe of the same post by the same author yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39282349 I'm glad this one is getting more traction. Can we merge the posts, though?

Oops, my bad - I was having issues with posting yesterday so wasn't sure it went through. Should I ask the mods?

No worries, and welcome to HN! You can email the mods at hn@ycombinator.com if you really want to, but it's not a big deal either way. This post is getting much more traction anyway :)
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