It's the worst I've ever seen it. It's a generational downturn, a major bubble burst. Feel free to look but don't quit until you find something else. I doubt we've seen the end, either. It's probably going to get worse before it gets better.
Ask HN: Is the job market is bad as everyone claims it is?
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#12Not only is it a very tough time to be looking for a job, junior positions are particularly difficult (this is generally the case when hiring slows down and companies can buy more experience for less). Doesn't mean you shouldn't look, but definitely set your expectations appropriately. Might be a while before things get better.
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#13I'm not sure about other niches, but it seems to be fine in HPC. I'm getting more recruiters messaging me on LinkedIn than ever.
Now that's interesting - I haven't paid much attention to the HPC job market in years. Are you a HPC system administrator, HPC dev, or both?
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#14I'm not sure about other niches, but it seems to be fine in HPC. I'm getting more recruiters messaging me on LinkedIn than ever.
Now that's interesting - I haven't paid much attention to the HPC job market in years. Are you a HPC system administrator, HPC dev, or both?
I'm a HPC system administrator at a DoE lab.
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#15In the past few years, the software job market went from hot, to red-hot, to even hotter than that, back down to hot.
I think people are comparing the current market to previous boomtimes which we all knew couldn't last.
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#16Anecdotally, I received 2-3 messages from recruiters almost daily during 2020-2021 (ended up taking a job from one in 2021). I didn't hear anything from recruiters from 2022 until about 2 weeks ago -- now they're starting to trickle back in. I don't know if that indicates that hiring is picking pack up; just wanted to share my perspective.
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#17There are 2-3x more applicants per job posting now than last year. I'd say yes.
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#18Dot com bubble burst - In 2002 I had a job interview and the lunch portion was at an outdoor BBQ place. A construction worker was listening to our interview. When we got up to leave, he asked my interviewer for a job interview. He said he was an out of work Solaris sys-admin.
Things seem pretty bad right now. It seems like 2023 created fewer new tech jobs. But mostly it is a gut feeling based on anecdotes and news stories w/o hard numbers.
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#19its the worst i've seen since 2000
Do you think 2000 was worse? (I wasn’t in the field then)
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#20Companies have gone super saiyan on outsourcing.
Its a nightmare for generalists, newbies, web devs, front end, run of the mill cloud and sysadmin.
Literally worst in history possibly.
Anything that can be easily outsourced to an Indian or Latam candidate
If you have a security clearance that cant be outsourced or use pytorch everyday youre prob fine.
If youre a specialist on some field its never been better. I think ML people are getting 1M comp at OpenAI.
What kind of tech person are you?