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Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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I used some Beelink Mini PCs for that. I found these on Amazon, pretty good compromise quality/price.

My father recently got one for a low-powered, always-on workstation that he can sync stuff to. It looks like these run the gamut of recent AMD cards, so I thought they looked promising.

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

#12
Steam Deck as a left of field option with the best supported gaming outside windows and very competent linux machine when docked (might want an alternative OS such as Bazzite[0]).

Fan noise audible if it's permanently loaded up but that's like many of the knockoff NUC or litre PCs.

0: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

#13
The fine folks over at /r/minipc Reddit forum keep a whole spreadsheet tracking nearly all the best options with columns for various features.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IjCpi4_z_WfO0G53E_mW...

Personally I purchased a beelink ser7:

- AMD Ryzen™ 7 7840HS

- Radeon780M (RDNA 3)

- 32Gb ram

All for about 700 IIRC

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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The hidden pitfall in this question is that the most obvious answers come with external power supplies. Some are half the size of the computer.

e.g. https://www.servethehome.com/lenovo-thinkcentre-m920x-tiny-r...

Some models can be powered over USB-C, allowing them to run off compact GaN chargers, monitors, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-7940HS-Radeon-USB3-2-PCIe4...

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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The Lenovo ThinkStation Tiny Workstation series looks to be about the right form factor (can be mounted on the back of a monitor too). Only missing criteria is a dedicated GPU, but Iris Xe iGPU's outperform a GTX 260, so for only gaming it might be an OK compromise. They can be had cheaply second-hand.

If you're willing to go slightly larger, Mini-ITX PCs are still quite small, but have the benefit of all desktop-class hardware and easier upgrades. There are too many options here to make a specific recommedation, but if you search for Mini ITX on /r/battlestations, you can find some inspiration.

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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The minisforum UM790 Pro is something I've looked at too. https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-um790-pro It can handle many games at good settings already. It also has USB 4.0 which will allow you to connect it to an eGPU for higher end gaming. EDIT: Today, I'm running a Lenovo P14s AMD Gen 4 which is slightly slower. For the price, the performance has been amazing.

I paid $590 for the minisforum UM700 in 2021 [0], now worth ~$215. Ryzen 7 3750H. Upgraded the 16GB RAM to 32GB which was another 50 bucks or something I can't remember.

Been my daily driver desktop since 2021.

I play Victoria 3, Cities Skylines, Valheim. And develop on it. Both Windows programs and also Linux stuff SSH-ed into my beefier dev servers.

I've also done some light video recording and editing.

I've run out of disk space now so I think I'll grab an external drive. But I'd buy one of these again.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093BBLB4K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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I bought an Intel NUC for my Windows work. I don't play games on it though. They have a bunch of variants. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=intel+nuc

Worth knowing if you're buying an Intel NUC: "On July 18, 2023, Intel and ASUS announced that they had agreed on a term sheet for a non-exclusive license for ASUS to manufacture, sell, and support 10th to 13th Gen NUC systems. ASUS will be responsible for NUC sales distribution for 10th to 13th Gen NUC systems. For 13th Gen NUC and future generations, ASUS will select and create new ASUS NUC SKUs." https://www.asus.com/us/content/nuc-overview/

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

#18
If you're flexible on the NTFS storage requirement, then one of the newer Windows handhelds like Lenovo Legion Go or Asus ROG Ally could be a good fit.

They both contain the AMD Z1 Extreme SOC, which not only has 8 cores but contains a pretty good iGPU (780M is comparable to Nvidia's 1050Ti in benchmarks). Added bonus is that it contains a battery and display, so very portable and fairly good gaming machines.

Maybe get an external HDD adapter for when you need to access old files.

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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post #12

Steam Deck as a left of field option with the best supported gaming outside windows and very competent linux machine when docked (might want an alternative OS such as Bazzite[0]). Fan noise audible if it's permanently loaded up but that's like many of the knockoff NUC or litre PCs. 0: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/

It’s kinda pricey compared to solutions without a built-in screen, battery, and controller. And I’m not sure how well it’d serve these other use cases, or playing games from iso files—I’m sure that last thing could work, at least in many cases, but no way it’s gonna be as straightforward for that as Windows. I also find the desktop to be so janky that I dread dropping into it to do anything (I do have one).

[edit] the fans are also pretty loud if it’s actually doing anything. Not an issue with headphones, might be otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: What alternatives exist to a Mac mini but for Windows?

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post #3

I bought an Intel NUC for my Windows work. I don't play games on it though. They have a bunch of variants. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=intel+nuc

My wife had the high end NUC (Skull Canyon) with the dedicated AMD GPU.

Absolutely KILLER machine for the size and price. The next generation gaming NUCs were so, so much bigger. I can't stand them.

Highly recommend the NUC line overall!

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