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Ask HN: Why does cynicism rule the internet?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does cynicism rule the internet?

#11
Algorithms generally reward "unpopular opinions" - polarizing views held by a minority.

Facebook, without its downvotes, doesn't punish them, so people can be as cynical, bitter, and savage as they like. The algorithm boosts these. Some have a downvote button, but by giving more weight to upvotes, it has a similar effect.

Reddit rewards groupthink. It self-selects clearly enough into subreddits. X does this invisibly by grouping people with similar opinions.

HN is a mix. The main topic itself has no downvoting mechanism, so most people will disagree by writing comments. If 1000 people agree and 300 don't, you'll see hundreds of comments disagreeing and few agreeing. Since people come to the comments to downvote, the cynical opinions float up.

Re: Ask HN: Why does cynicism rule the internet?

#12

Mobs are only optimistic when they’re going to war.

I feel there is more general mechanism that drives behaviors like this, In my opinion people tend to promote those things cultivated by their tribe, so they feel their sense of being part of that tribe is reinforced. I think most tribes are imaginary, and people do things to feed internal sense of being counted as member.

Re: Ask HN: Why does cynicism rule the internet?

#13
1. Because cynicism rules in real life

2. Because optimism is usually wrong

3. Naive cynicism is a thing, such people are called conspiracy theorists and idiots

4. Optimism is rarely unironically funny or entertaining and nobody likes being preached at

5. Standing out from the crowd gathers attention and stokes the ego

6. Internet people more often work in fields where optimism is verboten. An optimistic engineer is a bad engineer when engineering mistakes can kill people or cause serious damage or financial loss

Re: Ask HN: Why does cynicism rule the internet?

#14
> And if you want to be upvoted/agreed with a lot you should post a cynical view.

Disagree. It's easier to preach to broader audience by repeating what most agree with. Try going into random reddit submission and sort comments by controversial. Guarantee they will be full of cynicism and have scores oscillating around 0 at best.

Because of this I find cynicism more authentic. These people don't mind openly having an opinion that may not be liked by others. Personally these cynical takes challenge my view on something and help me see through tribalism and echo chambers I find myself in

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