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Ask HN: Did you learn civics at school?

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Re: Ask HN: Did you learn civics at school?

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American here.

I had a year of American government around 9th grade-ish, which covered the basics of the system, the founding documents, etc. and then spent a lot of time with the formative debates driving it (Federalist/Anti-Federalist Papers, Montesquieu, Hobbes, Locke, and such). Plus during elementary school a year or two of American/state history, which had civics elements. Then there were sundry courses like geography and things like read-alouds covering topics like economics (I definitely recall learning about inflation and the labor movement in middle school).

American Government was also a required course at uni (which I believe is common among liberal arts schools). That one was more practical in focus.

Back in first grade I remember participating in a mock election based on the candidates of the day...

Bear in mind I was homeschooled for much of the above, and many of the homeschoolers I knew were already very civically engaged with volunteering, Boy Scouts, interning at the state capitol, and more.

Maybe that was just my social group, but we as a family weren't political activists or anything (nor was politics a particularly common or passionate discussion) and some of this was just the path laid out by the curriculum.

Re: Ask HN: Did you learn civics at school?

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Yes. And geography. USA (California) 1966-78. Catholic school (Jesuit) then public school. Apparently no longer taught at all. One of the reasons we homeschooled our kids.

>Apparently no longer taught at all.

Interesting. Does that vary by state, or just not taught in general?

Re: Ask HN: Did you learn civics at school?

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post #9

Yes. And geography. USA (California) 1966-78. Catholic school (Jesuit) then public school. Apparently no longer taught at all. One of the reasons we homeschooled our kids.

>Apparently no longer taught at all. Interesting. Does that vary by state, or just not taught in general?

I don’t know. Not part of the California or Oregon public school curriculum AFAIK. Many parents have complained about this for a couple of decades. All focus on STEM and social engineering projects.

The US has a national curriculum in the form of guidelines and standards. I haven’t been in school in decades and skipped it for my own children so I don’t know what gets taught nationwide.

Anecdotally civics, geography, and history seem to have fallen out of favor. Just teaching kids to read and do arithmetic and not take drugs is a big challenge apparently.

Re: Ask HN: Did you learn civics at school?

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I had a "civic knowledge" subject for two years in high school (in Hungary). I guess it was supposed to teach us about these topics, but in reality we were listening the teacher's subclass rants about minorities and generally, other people. Also her endorsement to Viktor Orbán.
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