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Still not legal right? I can kinda get posters but unless they aquired the right to every single frame in every single movie they used... Google can't show you links to streaming websites. Get caught making a camrip you go to fucking jail. Don't get how any of this is allowed to happen. I mean, is Disney just retarded? They do realize that once Dall-e video edition gets released they're going to not have a business a…
I don't know why you're taking this to such a personal level, but the images are clearly parody, so in no way illegal.
Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
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Re: Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
#12Note: I am not an expert :) > How does this work from a technological standpoint? There have only been 27 Pixar feature films. From the start, imaging AI's capability has been largely around style transfer. You can take an artist or define a lump group of inspiration, dump it in as a prompt and get a fairly high chance of a good-looking image. > Why Disney-Pixar in particular? Why not Dreamworks, Illuminatiom enterta…
>They've had their content mocked, copied and even used as hate speech for decades now. Yeah, by actual PEOPLE not corporations. Even then you aren't allowed to use copyrighted trade marks what the hell?? >There's a good arguement that all of these images are derivative parody works protected by Fair Use, AI-generated or not. That doesn't even make sense. >The AI-generation legality part is yet-to-be-decided-on, but…
Nope. Here's an easy test for your claims; prove it.
None of your examples are copyrighted works. They resemble copyrighted works, but my so does my framed painting of Super Mario smoking weed. As long as I'm not using it to identically reproduce copyrighted material in full (which is impossible), what is the potential harm here? It is legally protected, unique expression created in parody of a pop culture figure. This isn't even remotely a new concept.
Also, brush up on copyright precedent and Fair Use. It's not the 60s, Pinkertons won't burn down your house for animating Mickey Mouse sucking a dick anymore. Brave new world, huh?
Re: Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
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There isn't a human in the loop.
Does it matter? When Google automated the scanning and digitization of millions of books for searching purposes, they were awarded Fair Use[0] protection despite using an automated system to derive unauthorized digital copies of copyright-encumbered material. AI is clearly more derivative than that. It's too early to call for sure, but it's hard to imagine what a "victory" for copyright holders even looks like at thi…
Re: Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
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Does it matter? When Google automated the scanning and digitization of millions of books for searching purposes, they were awarded Fair Use[0] protection despite using an automated system to derive unauthorized digital copies of copyright-encumbered material. AI is clearly more derivative than that. It's too early to call for sure, but it's hard to imagine what a "victory" for copyright holders even looks like at thi…
I don't know, what I do know is that every book on Google Books worth reading is behind a paywall
They can provide you a snippet, within the legal limits of what they are able to reproduce. They can also direct you to buy a copy of it through them, if the publisher has a deal with Google. Seeing as all roads lead to Rome... most books in Google Books are also available for purchase through Google. Funny system.
Re: Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
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>They've had their content mocked, copied and even used as hate speech for decades now. Yeah, by actual PEOPLE not corporations. Even then you aren't allowed to use copyrighted trade marks what the hell?? >There's a good arguement that all of these images are derivative parody works protected by Fair Use, AI-generated or not. That doesn't even make sense. >The AI-generation legality part is yet-to-be-decided-on, but…
> in reality what all these models essentially are is just a distributed compression algorithms for digital media? Nope. Here's an easy test for your claims; prove it. None of your examples are copyrighted works. They resemble copyrighted works, but my so does my framed painting of Super Mario smoking weed. As long as I'm not using it to identically reproduce copyrighted material in full (which is impossible), what i…
>what is the potential harm here?
Like, harm to whom? Short term, for the viewer: none. The brand reputation aspect I have already mentioned. Mid-term it's media getting boring and predictable. Long term it's culture dying and all attempts at authentic human expression through art drowning in AI generated slop. That's more of a spiritual thing.
Re: Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
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I don't know, what I do know is that every book on Google Books worth reading is behind a paywall
Yes. This is because they cannot provide you the full text of the book; that would be illegal. They can provide you a snippet, within the legal limits of what they are able to reproduce. They can also direct you to buy a copy of it through them, if the publisher has a deal with Google. Seeing as all roads lead to Rome... most books in Google Books are also available for purchase through Google. Funny system.
Re: Ask HN: Genuine confusion over AI generated fake Disney Pixar movie posters
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> in reality what all these models essentially are is just a distributed compression algorithms for digital media? Nope. Here's an easy test for your claims; prove it. None of your examples are copyrighted works. They resemble copyrighted works, but my so does my framed painting of Super Mario smoking weed. As long as I'm not using it to identically reproduce copyrighted material in full (which is impossible), what i…
You can not compare a single instance of whacky artwork created in parody of a pop culture figure to the machine that plagiarizes the work of thousands of people and an artstyle developed over decades. >what is the potential harm here? Like, harm to whom? Short term, for the viewer: none. The brand reputation aspect I have already mentioned. Mid-term it's media getting boring and predictable. Long term it's culture d…
Sure I can; Author's Guild vs. Google inc.