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Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

#11
If you're an IC at an Oracle customer and you have to interact with their products, you may have a very valid reason to hate them.

The people who make purchasing decisions love them. As long as you pay the ransom, Oracle loves you back. The lawyers can be very friendly if you know to stay on their good side.

Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

#12
Probably a bit worse. Most everything they make is true garbage, and no one really cares. Letting their software into your business is definitely cancer-like.

However when I worked there it was extremely comfy, so as an employer I would rate it very highly. Very remote friendly too!

Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

#13
probably was probably isn't anymore

today I would say Microsoft holds the crone again

partially because they got so good at tricking people temporary into believing they are not

through that is looking at the western world, if you look beyond but using wester values like privacy then the crone probably gets passed to ByteDance

Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

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post #8

Sad how Microsoft doesn't get the reactions it deserves anymore. Probably the single most harmful entity to computing.

Why do you think so? I did think this too until about 6 years ago but with them basically buying all of open source and AI, I kind of can’t help but use and love the products they now own. What damage to they currently do?

Could you post a few examples of what good they did to open source? Genuinely curious.

Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

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Oracle? The law firm with an IT department?

The IT folks are kept very well-hidden from us lawyers. Took me a week to get my phone and laptop set up after I started there. I knew other lawyers who didn't know how to get their cell phones on the wifi, despite having worked there for a decade.

Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

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Oracle is “most evil” because they maximise the harm they can do legally and have mastered the art of lock-in and rent seeking.

Often they will even acquire companies to expand the rent seeking empire.

Their flagship product has strict legal requirements that you are never allowed to publish benchmarks of comparable systems and believe me they have the legal force on staff to pursue you indefinitely.

They very much deserve the reputation they have.

Google, Microsoft et al. throw the community a bone with loss leaders and generate good will by not being especially litigious.

Netflix is basically not evil in any definable way.

Apple is divisive; their biggest issue is that they are awful to work for and have mastered the art of audience segmentation which is why they can charge $400 for 8G of RAM. Which to many feels evil.

Oracle is easily the worst of these.

Re: Ask HN: Is Oracle that much more evil than other big companies?

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think so? I did think this too until about 6 years ago but with them basically buying all of open source and AI, I kind of can’t help but use and love the products they now own. What damage to they currently do?

Could you post a few examples of what good they did to open source? Genuinely curious.

Typescript, vscode, npm, github and more

https://opensource.microsoft.com/projects/

They also added a “Sponsor” button to Github which while I have mixed feelings about it, does help open source projects thrive.

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