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Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

#11
go to pramp.com, get a handful of free interviews or do a paid interview, tell people in advance to be extra critical of you and hear what they say. Maybe you're coming off wrong. or maybe you're right and they lied.

However, I've never had a company that didn't want to pay say that. They have nothing to lose by saying "we decided that you are out of our budget".

Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

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post #3

Yeah, “cultural fit” is a jolly term used not to give an actual explanation. In fairness though, they don’t owe you an explanation.

It’s also often a euphemism for not being a member of the same race/gender/age/class group as the rest of the team

Or political/mindset group

Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

#13
In 2008 while doing interviews, I had a lady ask me as the final question:

- Do you play any instrument? Say the trumpet, the piano... anything?

I did play the guitar all my life.

- No, I don't.

- Anyone on your family have that "knack" for instruments? Something-something art?

- No mam.

Of course I was turned down.

One thing that I can say about these bullshit questions though, is that to maximize chances, you can go ahead and try to be fun. No funny. Fun.

"Yes, I worked with home-automation, had some clients, I did everything from business to coding..."

instead you can do

"That was a time in my life that I really excited about. You ever had one of those situations where you jump out of bed an you just wanna get to work? Man those were the days... so, home-automation..."

Sucks as an introvert to put with stuff like this, but it only takes an hour, and it's six figures later on.

Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s also often a euphemism for not being a member of the same race/gender/age/class group as the rest of the team

Or political/mindset group

In my experience, both sides of an interview tend to avoid politics so that doesn’t often come into play directly. At least not in any of the technical interviews I’ve been a part of over multiple decades. Of course an interviewer may make assumptions about a candidate’s political positions based on the categories I mentioned in my original post (age, gender), but that type of fit would already be covered under those categories.

I could also see religious beliefs fitting into that category of culture fit if the candidate’s attire includes religious symbols or articles of clothing.

Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

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I am very, very sensitive to the "cultural fit" in my organization. It has nothing to do with you being gay, straight, black, white, woman, man or other typical trigger words.

It has a lot with you behaving in a way that will be acceptable/enjoyable to the team.

This does not mean that you have to be like them! I have all kind of personalities in several teams and they differ vastly. The thing that binds them is that they like to spend their time at the office together (and for some of them - outside the office too).

Of course this is not measurable and some people are just a "chemical fit", and some others are not. This does not mean that there is something wrong with you (or them, or us) - we are just different in the way we want to be together.

Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

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In 2008 while doing interviews, I had a lady ask me as the final question: - Do you play any instrument? Say the trumpet, the piano... anything? I did play the guitar all my life. - No, I don't. - Anyone on your family have that "knack" for instruments? Something-something art? - No mam. Of course I was turned down. One thing that I can say about these bullshit questions though, is that to maximize chances, you can g…

Why did you say you didn't play an instrument when you did?

Re: Ask HN: Getting rejected by HR for cultural reasons?

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I am very, very sensitive to the "cultural fit" in my organization. It has nothing to do with you being gay, straight, black, white, woman, man or other typical trigger words. It has a lot with you behaving in a way that will be acceptable/enjoyable to the team. This does not mean that you have to be like them! I have all kind of personalities in several teams and they differ vastly . The thing that binds them is tha…

How do you control for bias and blindspots?
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