I have a long held belief that engineering managers are mostly a scam, and are actually just overpaid scrum masters. This is from working at some top companies
Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
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Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#12Manager is the one who can't code, love meetings (part of their job), love Office (so they won't get boring for doing reporting all day).
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#13Manager is the one who can't code, love meetings (part of their job), love Office (so they won't get boring for doing reporting all day).
I can code. I hate meetings. I like my home office and have been remote for about eight years.
I don't think you know what people managers do.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#14Manager is the one who can't code, love meetings (part of their job), love Office (so they won't get boring for doing reporting all day).
Also ensures communication vertically and horizontally across the org, works with partner teams, provides guidance and mentorship, and who’s efficacy is the number 1 cause of attrition.
If you deal with “bad” managers, that’s a function of working at a “bad” company and you only have yourself to blame for that.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#15I'm at LI and my reporting chain is Sr mgr > Sr Director > VP > Sr vp > CEO.
A year ago it was mgr > sr mgr > director > sr Director> vp> svp > ceo.
No one in my management chain was impacted but the flattening has been happening organically as folks leave. LI has a distinctive lack of chill right now contrary to the company image, but generally things are just moving faster.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#16I have a long held belief that engineering managers are mostly a scam, and are actually just overpaid scrum masters. This is from working at some top companies
My manager does little else besides asking what everyone is working on every day. We could automate her position with a slack bot and get the same results.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#17Manager is the one who can't code, love meetings (part of their job), love Office (so they won't get boring for doing reporting all day).
I can code. I hate meetings. I like my home office and have been remote for about eight years. I don't think you know what people managers do.
I haven't had a manager before who didn't complain about how many meetings they have, but I think they are a necessary evil for the position. My short stint in management sure saw meeting numbers balloon.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#18Manager is the one who can't code, love meetings (part of their job), love Office (so they won't get boring for doing reporting all day).
Also ensures communication vertically and horizontally across the org, works with partner teams, provides guidance and mentorship, and who’s efficacy is the number 1 cause of attrition. If you deal with “bad” managers, that’s a function of working at a “bad” company and you only have yourself to blame for that.
The amount of communication and reporting required increases with an increase in number of managers. By reducing number of levels and number of managers, you are reducing the amount of communication required in the first place.
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#19Manager is the one who can't code, love meetings (part of their job), love Office (so they won't get boring for doing reporting all day).
I can code. I hate meetings. I like my home office and have been remote for about eight years. I don't think you know what people managers do.
I’ve never seen a manager like you describe but I’d sure like to have more of this!
Re: Ask HN: 20% of LinkedIn's recent layoffs were managers
#20I have a long held belief that engineering managers are mostly a scam, and are actually just overpaid scrum masters. This is from working at some top companies
It depends.
My manager filters my email. And tells me what the new priority is.
Two levels up is a director. Above that is a department head. Out of 100 people there are about six that truly build, ship, accelerate the goal arrival.
The rest of us make waves allowing the divers to have a soft landing.