Don't underestimate the paranoia of useless middle management who cannot justify their existence by Teams meetings alone and cannot easily brown-nose from home.
Ask HN: Why are some companies still trying to force return to office?
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#12Not only can you do fine, but you can save a ton of money on office operations. The economics will win out in the end, I don't doubt it. A lot of executives and managers are simply in denial.
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#13You may think they are wrong. You may not like that they believe this. But they really do believe that in-person is better for getting stuff done, and that's why they want it.
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#14Lots of execs and managers believe that groups of people are more innovative and productive when they discuss things in-person. You may think they are wrong. You may not like that they believe this. But they really do believe that in-person is better for getting stuff done, and that's why they want it.
Two years ago there's wasn't enough data to know what would work long term. There is now.
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#15Lots of execs and managers believe that groups of people are more innovative and productive when they discuss things in-person. You may think they are wrong. You may not like that they believe this. But they really do believe that in-person is better for getting stuff done, and that's why they want it.
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#16Because the banks and local govt bet a lot on commercial leases. Banks says they are solvent because they have "hard" assets to borrow against. Govts promises the paradise with future taxes. Got to the office? Pay toll Got a coffee? Pay taxes Consume more petrol/gas for your car? Pay taxes. More electricity? pay taxes. You can't expect they let you out so easy right?
Yeah, but why would the startup I work for care about that?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but why would the startup I work for care about that?
Because they have no idea of what they are doing. At best they are copying others but most likely they are afraid you will not be working without someone looking over your shoulder. A lot of times they do it as staging theater for investors (look at my team working in a cool hub) others to impressive customers (having an address in a locale is part of branding). No one does it for better ideas. Cheaper to fly everyon…
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#18Lots of execs and managers believe that groups of people are more innovative and productive when they discuss things in-person. You may think they are wrong. You may not like that they believe this. But they really do believe that in-person is better for getting stuff done, and that's why they want it.
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#19Lots of execs and managers believe that groups of people are more innovative and productive when they discuss things in-person. You may think they are wrong. You may not like that they believe this. But they really do believe that in-person is better for getting stuff done, and that's why they want it.
I think this is the biggest factor, but also important to note that commercial leases tend to be long and very difficult / expensive to break.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but why would the startup I work for care about that?
Becase the fund that invest on your startup does. because the board members have leases nearby. because someone that is invested want you to go there, spend money or create expenses (consume food from cafeteria,etc.) If the student does not go in person to a university how valuable is the commercial lease at the university?