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Ask HN: Is there a post mortem for the UK flight control failure on 28th Aug?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a post mortem for the UK flight control failure on 28th Aug?

#11

We need to see the dodgy dossier, not the Iraq one, but the one filed by the French aircraft that supposedly bought a £multi million air traffic control system down. Je n'est ce pas? I see some airports were handing out camp beds for the stranded, although it certainly wasnt any AirBnB by any means, at least it was in keeping with the spirit of the law, even if it was only a little will-o'-the-wisp from a bog. Why di…

Your flight being delayed does not make you a refugee.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a post mortem for the UK flight control failure on 28th Aug?

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post #11

We need to see the dodgy dossier, not the Iraq one, but the one filed by the French aircraft that supposedly bought a £multi million air traffic control system down. Je n'est ce pas? I see some airports were handing out camp beds for the stranded, although it certainly wasnt any AirBnB by any means, at least it was in keeping with the spirit of the law, even if it was only a little will-o'-the-wisp from a bog. Why di…

Your flight being delayed does not make you a refugee.

First World Refugee Problems?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a post mortem for the UK flight control failure on 28th Aug?

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post #11

We need to see the dodgy dossier, not the Iraq one, but the one filed by the French aircraft that supposedly bought a £multi million air traffic control system down. Je n'est ce pas? I see some airports were handing out camp beds for the stranded, although it certainly wasnt any AirBnB by any means, at least it was in keeping with the spirit of the law, even if it was only a little will-o'-the-wisp from a bog. Why di…

Your flight being delayed does not make you a refugee.

No of course not, I dont make the definitions up, but it still feels like a refugee and hostage situation imposed by business and govt failings.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a post mortem for the UK flight control failure on 28th Aug?

#14
post #7

We need to see the dodgy dossier, not the Iraq one, but the one filed by the French aircraft that supposedly bought a £multi million air traffic control system down. Je n'est ce pas? I see some airports were handing out camp beds for the stranded, although it certainly wasnt any AirBnB by any means, at least it was in keeping with the spirit of the law, even if it was only a little will-o'-the-wisp from a bog. Why di…

The airports did what they did out of good faith - as far as I know, it's the airlines ' responsibility to provide accommodation. The problem is that there are no penalties for breaching the regulation, so the normal operating procedure for airlines is to ignore everyone and then selectively refund hotels only for the most persistent complainers. This of course leaves those who either can't afford to front the cost o…

Good faith is an imperceptible standard.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a post mortem for the UK flight control failure on 28th Aug?

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post #4

Sounds like it’s still pending: https://www.nats.aero/statement/air-traffic-control-system-u... > We have well established procedures, overseen by the CAA, to investigate incidents. We are already working closely with them to provide a preliminary report to the Secretary of State for Transport on Monday. The conclusions of this report will be made public.

> Initial investigations into the problem show it relates to some of the flight data we received. Our systems, both primary and the back-ups, responded by suspending automatic processing to ensure that no incorrect safety-related information could be presented to an air traffic controller or impact the rest of the air traffic system. There are no indications that this was a cyber-attack.

Not a cyber attack, but the way it's described makes it seem like an attack vector. (Inject bad safety data, let the cascade take it all down?)
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