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Re: Ask HN: Do you feel excluded from HN/Lobste.rs/Reddit?

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> If you signup and try to post a lot of text or god forbid a Show HN you spent weeks building, it shadow bans you for at least five days. It forces you to wait before you can participate. Firstly is that actually true? I feel like I've seen any number of interesting posts from brand new accounts. Secondly, if you have "spent weeks building" something it will not kill you to wait for five days to tell us about it. >…

> Firstly is that actually true? I created a new account, posted legit content, and none of the content appeared until ~5 days later. > it will not kill you How do you know it will not kill me? What if I don't have to pay this month's rent and launching the site today instead of five days later amounts to $500? Both of these are true for me right now . The creators of HN can't possibly know the cost to a user to post…

> I created a new account, posted legit content, and none of the content appeared until ~5 days later.

This proves that it happened to you for the content that you posted, not that it's a general issue. Even if we assume your content is indeed "legit" then this seems like an inconvenience to you but not particularly one to this community. Which one do you think the community would value more?

> How do you know it will not kill me?

Unless you are posting from beyond the grave then it did not kill you. QED.

If you won't present specifics then I don't see why anyone here should care that you're disgruntled about it.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel excluded from HN/Lobste.rs/Reddit?

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I don't think this is true of HN. Here I am posting a comment from a brand new account. Can you see it?

I think OP is talking about new posts rather than new threads on existing posts. Although I'm still inclined to suspect that spam mitigation factors¹ caught their particular post rather than this being a general thing, because I'm pretty sure I have seen brand new accounts post interesting stuff.

Seems like OP's nose is just out of joint because their terribly important post got clobbered :shrug:

¹ Which is not to accuse them of posting spam - just that it scored high on some metric or other.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel excluded from HN/Lobste.rs/Reddit?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. But they're the cheapest and easiest. But, if you don't like it, then it is relatively easy to start your own community site. Something like Lemmy or kbin might be suitable for you. Let us know how it goes - and whether you solve the spam problem.

How did you measure that they're the cheapest and easiest? And cheapest and easiest for whom? I did and I did.

They are "cheapest and easiest" because they're the ones that currently exist. Any other approach would require work on the part of the site owners. If you want them to change that then you're going to have to present a case as to why it's in their interest, not why it's in yours.

Nobody is opposed to you setting up a competing forum with different spam-filtering qualities.

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