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Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by confoundcofound »

alphaomegacode wrote: post #8
confoundcofound wrote: post #4

I'd like to hear some perspectives on this too. Just recently came back from yet another trip to Miami and in my opinion it puts most other US metropolitan cities to shame. Miami's sprawling development, balance of urban density and natural open spaces, network of enclaves / hubs of activity, relative cleanliness, paved roads, coastal access, and obviously weather, have all made me seriously consider it for my next m…

I'm not sure how you saw a https://www.newsbreak.com/miami-fl/2964830065686-report-miam... balance of density and natural open spaces because Miami ranks near the bottom for parks and density incl traffic https://www.newsbreak.com/miami-fl/2964830065686-report-miam...

Have you been to NYC? The roads here are pretty tattered. Re: coastal access, I was providing my overall view of the city, which was pretty obvious.

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by confoundcofound »

testfrequency wrote: post #9
awithrow wrote: post #3

Honestly this is the first i've ever heard of it. Was it even a meme? I'm sure there might be some tech companies there? I've just never heard it mentioned in any of my circles.

It was trying to be a “tech/crypto” hub, but really it was just hedge funds and wealthy investors getting tired of mask mandates in their home states and “moving their businesses” to Miami - compounded by Elon talking with city officials on Twitter. I think Miami is a poorly managed, over policed, and a very segregated city - with a heavy focus on leisure and entertainment for tourism. In the same vain, I’d actually…

Can you shed light on Miami's poor management?

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by BWStearns »

I live here and am job hunting now. I've seen very few positions available in Miami, almost all of which have salary ranges lower than remote roles. I'm probably going to move back to NYC or something when the lease runs up, the risk of catching another layoff and getting stranded here if remote fully dries up is just too high.

The meme seems to come from people who dislike NYC/SF cheerleading widely publicized relocations from there to Miami. Tons of VC types moved their executives' offices* down here during the pandemic to take advantage of taxes and basically start their retirement early.

* Generally speaking they didn't move most of their minions out of NYC, so the minions still need to shell out for the rent and taxes.

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by alphaomegacode »

confoundcofound wrote: post #7
alphaomegacode wrote: post #5

You can get objective criteria. As someone who lived there until literally months ago for much of my adulthood, there are definitely serious issues for a tech/startup city. The education system isn't highly rated overall so you'll have to choose carefully if you have kids. Similar if you're depending on a pool of local tech talent. There was some social media stuff about it being a tech city but that was based on the…

Would you mind providing more info on why you left? Did the city push you out or did you pursue opportunity elsewhere? Outside of the issues you outlined for tech, how is life there otherwise?

Salaries esp in tech and tech management are much better elsewhere even in the state itself.

Jacksonville I believe was ranked as the fastest growing US metro area but I might be mistaken on that. Orlando is seeing serious and major construction - both residential and even more so commercial.

The traffic is awful but that's a given in I think every major city I've spent months or lived in - DC, Atlanta, etc.

You should take a look at Orlando and Tampa (45 minutes from Orlando) and maybe Jacksonville if you're trying to escape the snow and that type of weather. But if you're committed to moving to South Florida, maybe also look about 30 minutes north of it to Ft Lauderdale and those areas. Tampa/St Petersburg has some great beaches too if you're into beaches.

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by alphaomegacode »

kar5pt wrote: post #10
alphaomegacode wrote: post #5

You can get objective criteria. As someone who lived there until literally months ago for much of my adulthood, there are definitely serious issues for a tech/startup city. The education system isn't highly rated overall so you'll have to choose carefully if you have kids. Similar if you're depending on a pool of local tech talent. There was some social media stuff about it being a tech city but that was based on the…

"The education system isn't highly rated overall so you'll have to choose carefully if you have kids." This is an understatement. Virtually everyone I knew in Florida who had kids sent them to private school. These weren't rich people (they weren't in tech). Anyone who was remotely middle class would find a way to scrap the funds together because the public schools were so horrendous.

True. Forgot about that since most of my family and friends did same and since I was half public and half private myself lol. Sad actually when you think of the tax base and population count.

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by alphaomegacode »

confoundcofound wrote: post #11
alphaomegacode wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how you saw a https://www.newsbreak.com/miami-fl/2964830065686-report-miam... balance of density and natural open spaces because Miami ranks near the bottom for parks and density incl traffic https://www.newsbreak.com/miami-fl/2964830065686-report-miam...

Have you been to NYC? The roads here are pretty tattered. Re: coastal access, I was providing my overall view of the city, which was pretty obvious.

I apologize and didn't mean to come off as snarky. And yes, anytime I'm in NYC I'm prepared for the bumps in my cab rides. I thought you were honestly using it as either humor or an experiment and such but I didn't mean to come off like I did. Totally my bad and I edited my comment to remove the items that came across as snarky.

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by selimthegrim »

alphaomegacode wrote: post #16
confoundcofound wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you been to NYC? The roads here are pretty tattered. Re: coastal access, I was providing my overall view of the city, which was pretty obvious.

I apologize and didn't mean to come off as snarky. And yes, anytime I'm in NYC I'm prepared for the bumps in my cab rides. I thought you were honestly using it as either humor or an experiment and such but I didn't mean to come off like I did. Totally my bad and I edited my comment to remove the items that came across as snarky.

They surely aren't praising Miami's public transportation.

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by jvmfjvfjvf »

alphaomegacode wrote: post #5

You can get objective criteria. As someone who lived there until literally months ago for much of my adulthood, there are definitely serious issues for a tech/startup city. The education system isn't highly rated overall so you'll have to choose carefully if you have kids. Similar if you're depending on a pool of local tech talent. There was some social media stuff about it being a tech city but that was based on the…

I don't know what your criteria is but many major tech companies have offices in Miami.

1. Microsoft

2. Google

3. Amazon

4. Facebook

5. Twitter

6. Uber

7. Lyft

8. Visa

9. Mastercard

10. IBM

11. Oracle

12. Cisco

13. Citrix Systems

14. Salesforce

15. SAP

16. Intel

17. Dell

Re: Ask HN: Is Miami a legit tech/startup city or was that just a meme?

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Post by hoofhearted »

No.

There isn’t any large, well established old money universities that push tech innovation.

There isn’t any large, well established new money funds that give away money to spur new innovation.

There isn’t a large cohort of super nerdy, super risky people in Miami.

Miami is super sensitive to the elements, and very prone to natural disasters.

Without all cool the tech equipment in the area, the nerds aren’t going to follow.

I believe it was a made up Crypto tech hub by those trying to further enrich themselves.

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