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Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

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Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

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This is a message I received from a Google recruiter. -- This is *** again reaching out to see if you were open to new opportunities? The team I am on supports Software Engineer III - in most other places this would be more of a Software Engineer IV or V. Based on your experience in ******, there were a few specialized roles that you would have been a great fit for, which closed earlier this month. With those positio…

This is the shortage of tech workers they were talking about.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

#12
Source: work at a FAANG which has had layoffs.

There is still some hiring going on, but obviously very much reduced so just by the numbers it's going to be harder. I don't think actual $ offers are lower, if anything they will be better since new hires get better stock grant prices. I think one factor is that you won't see bidding wars like we did in 2021 since it's harder to get multiple offers.

As far as firing and rehiring at lower prices - I honestly don't think this is a thing at larger tech companies. It just takes too long to ramp up new people. I think these companies just needed to shed headcount due to over hiring and the fact that no one quit during the last few years!

Hiring remote people is much much harder now though. Remote is non-existent for new hires, maybe you can get it after working on site a bit.

As far as the process itself, I don't think anything has really changed. Expect a tech screen, then an interview loop with leet code coding, system design, and behavioral sessions.

All that said, I think it seems to be a good time to be a specialist. It is still hard to hire embedded engineers for example.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

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Laying off then re-hiring at reduced pay and benefits, a common practice not confined to the tech industry or FAANG. Also a way to get rid of troublesome and unproductive people under the guise of a mass layoff. Labor unions exist in part to prevent that practice. I'll let you work out why companies might prefer hiring people with less experience, or discriminate against older and more experienced people -- a practic…

I would counter that much of our thought process here at HN is on engineering but at a company the size of a FAANG there are thousands of non engineering people. Unless they have shared a breakdown on layoffs per role/business area it could also be that they need less advertising, marketers, recruiters, sales, support, etc. and are slowing engineering hires down. Two of the FAANG rely heavily on advertising as their cash cow and in an economic downturn companies spend less on advertising.

Getting hired with RSU's at current prices as an element of total comp would put new hires in a good position financially once the economy cycles back into growth.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

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Laying off then re-hiring at reduced pay and benefits, a common practice not confined to the tech industry or FAANG. Also a way to get rid of troublesome and unproductive people under the guise of a mass layoff. Labor unions exist in part to prevent that practice. I'll let you work out why companies might prefer hiring people with less experience, or discriminate against older and more experienced people -- a practic…

> The layoffs then represent the workers paying the price for poor management and short-sighted decisions, and pandering to Wall Street and VCs. You could say that those laid off people were mostly not needed in the first place, and represented burning of billions of Wall Street and VCs funds on unnecessary salaries. So, these people got lucky they got $300k-$500k doing BS things that no one needs, and being the bene…

I could say that, with a couple of caveats.

> those laid off people were mostly not needed in the first place, and represented burning of billions of Wall Street and VCs funds on unnecessary salaries

Sure. But they didn't hire themselves.

> these people got lucky they got $300k-$500k doing BS things that no one needs, and being the beneficiary of large, misguided wealth transfer

Agree, but again they didn't hire themselves or assign BS work to themselves.

> from the capitalist class to the worker class

At times like this we (programmers and technical managers) get reminded that despite our white collar trappings and high pay, what we do makes us workers rather than owners of capital. That probably comes as a surprise to the Silicon Valley tech-libertarians, except for the few who managed to start up their own business without going into hock with parasitical investors.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

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I received this email yesterday, which I found amusing in a sad way. Hello, Thank you for booking time with me to discuss your background and opportunities at Microsoft. Unfortunately, I need to cancel our meeting because I will be leaving the company due to changes in our business and reduction in force in Talent Acquisition. I am grateful for my time here and recommend Microsoft to anyone. I wish you all the best i…

I was in a job search from late August through early November last year. I've been around a while as a manager, including inside a FAANG, so I have lots of recruiting contacts inside those companies.

I estimate that at least 75% of my recruiter contacts (existing, plus new ones from the job search) have been laid off in the past 6 months. Ones least affected seem to be at smaller companies, though they're not immune either.

My interview "process" at Amazon was hilariously broken, as the following sequence happened:

  1) Recruiter screen  

  2) Initial hiring manager screen  

  3) Re-org, so position went away 

  4) Recruiter radio silence 

  5) New recruiter for new role reaches out and we chat 

  6) New recruiter laid off 

  7) Another recruiter reaches out for previous role, and we chat 

  8) That recruiter laid off 

  9) I decide this isn't the time to try to move to Amazon

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

#17
I’ve had a few companies that “had openings” and i passed hiring bar, but then actually didn’t have the headcount to hire me. Talking to some others this is very common right now, so I wouldnt trust job postings to reflect how many people are actually being hired

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

#18
I started a job at Meta after the November layoffs. The process felt pretty long for me (four months) but talking to other people it was not atypical. I’ve never worked at a FAANG before so I can’t comment on how things are different or anything like that. I am on a specialized area - privacy. From my job search I can tell you that privacy and security continue to be hot areas for hiring.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

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Laying off then re-hiring at reduced pay and benefits, a common practice not confined to the tech industry or FAANG. Also a way to get rid of troublesome and unproductive people under the guise of a mass layoff. Labor unions exist in part to prevent that practice. I'll let you work out why companies might prefer hiring people with less experience, or discriminate against older and more experienced people -- a practic…

But the vast majority of folks laid off were entry level or jr engineers.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone land a job in FAANG after layoffs and how is it going?

#20

I received this email yesterday, which I found amusing in a sad way. Hello, Thank you for booking time with me to discuss your background and opportunities at Microsoft. Unfortunately, I need to cancel our meeting because I will be leaving the company due to changes in our business and reduction in force in Talent Acquisition. I am grateful for my time here and recommend Microsoft to anyone. I wish you all the best i…

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