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Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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I guess one question is, why don't you want people to have read access to the code? IMHO if they aren't trustworthy to view code, they probably aren't trustworthy to be submitting tickets (or employed in any other roles in the org as well). To actually answer your question, you can have projects that span multiple repos, but you can't have repos that only have permissions for issues. In my org, we have a few differen…

I might be security LARPing but if someone doesn’t need to read the code to be able to do his job he just shouldn’t have access to do it. Person might have been trustworthy when they were hired and they might change their mind at some point. Even better - they still might be trustworthy but their computer got compromised and someone might be using them. Maybe some other employee has problems with them and since they…

Kinda get your sentiment, but you missed parents point. Whoever creates tickets SHOULD be able to at least skim code, do basic PR reviews, test a build. "I create tickets only" sounds like a toxic role.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be security LARPing but if someone doesn’t need to read the code to be able to do his job he just shouldn’t have access to do it. Person might have been trustworthy when they were hired and they might change their mind at some point. Even better - they still might be trustworthy but their computer got compromised and someone might be using them. Maybe some other employee has problems with them and since they…

Kinda get your sentiment, but you missed parents point. Whoever creates tickets SHOULD be able to at least skim code, do basic PR reviews, test a build. "I create tickets only" sounds like a toxic role.

What’s toxic about it? Tickets have a business need. They may have notes on implementation but if they aren’t serving a business need why do they exist?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be security LARPing but if someone doesn’t need to read the code to be able to do his job he just shouldn’t have access to do it. Person might have been trustworthy when they were hired and they might change their mind at some point. Even better - they still might be trustworthy but their computer got compromised and someone might be using them. Maybe some other employee has problems with them and since they…

Kinda get your sentiment, but you missed parents point. Whoever creates tickets SHOULD be able to at least skim code, do basic PR reviews, test a build. "I create tickets only" sounds like a toxic role.

Exactly. If you are capable enough to file useful tickets you are capable enough to read the code, run it locally, test out changes, tweak copy, etc.

You are wasting money paying people to write tickets and not read code.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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I guess one question is, why don't you want people to have read access to the code? IMHO if they aren't trustworthy to view code, they probably aren't trustworthy to be submitting tickets (or employed in any other roles in the org as well). To actually answer your question, you can have projects that span multiple repos, but you can't have repos that only have permissions for issues. In my org, we have a few differen…

I might be security LARPing but if someone doesn’t need to read the code to be able to do his job he just shouldn’t have access to do it. Person might have been trustworthy when they were hired and they might change their mind at some point. Even better - they still might be trustworthy but their computer got compromised and someone might be using them. Maybe some other employee has problems with them and since they…

I’m an actual security guy, been doing it for nearly 20 years (before it was a thing). I’m of the opinion that if I can’t trust people to look at code, they shouldn’t be at the company. Period.

There are very few use cases where I believe read only access to code from people in product, engineering or support should be restricted. Generally the net benefit is well worth the potential risk introduced.

If you are worried about people stealing source code, invest in a DLP or CASB solution. If you are worried about ransom, don’t allow changes without PRs, implement a backup program and harden your endpoints. Not allowing people to do things that helps them understand the systems they work with is a recipe for shadow IT and promotes organizational silos.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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I guess one question is, why don't you want people to have read access to the code? IMHO if they aren't trustworthy to view code, they probably aren't trustworthy to be submitting tickets (or employed in any other roles in the org as well). To actually answer your question, you can have projects that span multiple repos, but you can't have repos that only have permissions for issues. In my org, we have a few differen…

Exactly, the best software products are open source, of course many bad ones are also open sourced, but proprietary software that must be kept secret -- even within the company -- are usually not the best. Even for the hypothetical scenario where they are leaked - they would only make sense in the context of your business, as such should be mostly worthless to anyone else (but it may expose the degree of competence, and potential attempts at security via obscurity, so could still be very bad news).

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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what's your underlying motivation to eliminate jira & notion?

Among others, regulatory reasons can mean Jira is not an option (medical, financial, export controls etc). They removed their self-hosted version a while ago, and their "data center" version is a $42,000 _minimum_.

Atlassian IBM speedrun.

There should be plenty of open source alternatives, and the times are really bad now to justify expenses like this.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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I guess one question is, why don't you want people to have read access to the code? IMHO if they aren't trustworthy to view code, they probably aren't trustworthy to be submitting tickets (or employed in any other roles in the org as well). To actually answer your question, you can have projects that span multiple repos, but you can't have repos that only have permissions for issues. In my org, we have a few differen…

Intellectual property?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone Replace Jira with GitHub Issues?

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Not the OP here, but I think anyone who has used Jira understands the want to get rid of it—it is simply trash.

Not saying that it isn't, but I'm curious, what's your reason for saying Jira is trash?

It's agonizingly slow
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