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Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

#11
most nonfiction books are either:

- padded blogposts/tweets to appear thicker/more valuable - rampantly wrong pseudoscience and opinion pieces that trigger emotions instead of brains - once useful advice that is now horribly outdated - if accurate, then too dry to become actually popular

and then there is fiction, which is at least honest about being fiction, but constrained by the authors imagination as well as the target reading groups average expectations. Thats why most SciFi stuff is some kind of stupid dystopia to provoke fears about the future instead of guidance towards a good path like solarpunk.

Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

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Yes, most books are useless. > What tools/metrics are there to help find meaningful books? Okay, first I never read a book that is less than 10 years old. Why? Because 10 years is roughly the time needed for a book to withstand the wheel of time. 100 years, as noted in other comments as well, is even better. If old books are still read, they are probably good books. But I cannot tell you the best books of last year.…

How do you know if you're willing to read a book multiple times before, you know, getting acquainted with it by reading it?

Do you have a 100% accurate method to ensure you never ever start reading something not-awesome?

Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

#16
When I get a recommendation from an actual human being I know and trust, I typically enjoy it, but when it’s a book that influencers say “changed their life” or gets good reviews from NYT, or Goodreads, etc, I enjoy it much less so.

There’s nothing wrong with not being into the same books everyone else pretended to read. A good book should feel like entertainment or an interesting diversion, not a chore to slog through. There are some classics (like Dickens) that I just can’t get into, and I’m OK with that.

Stephen King describes his books as the literary equivalent of a “Big Mac and Fries” and you know what? Sometimes a Big Mac is what sounds good for lunch.

One genre I particularly like is non-fiction about interesting events, like “Endurance” about Shackleton’s failed voyage to the South Pole. It’s a great book and I learned more about leadership from it than all the other self-help books combined.

Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

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Yes, most books are crap. But Sturgeon's Law is a thing, so that should not be surprising. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

It took me years to get past the first 100 pages of both Dune and Stars in my Pocket like Grains of Sand but once I did, both turned out to be excellent. The only reason I kept trying is that I'd heard they were both good and I couldn't figure out what I was missing until I found it.

IME, the only way to know if you're likely to enjoy a book is if it's recommended by someone who knows your taste very well. Or if you have a favorite author. Other than that, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you waste a few hours.

One of the nice things about brick & mortar bookstores and libraries is being able to browse around until you find something good.

Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

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Correct. 19th century classics became so only because a good chunk of the populace was still illiterate, and not only could Austen, Balzac, Tolstoy, etc., write, they could write a thousand pages! So glibness was mistook for wisdom. I read a ton only because today's movies and tv are so bad, and because I can go as fast as I want. I skim because I'm only gonna remember 10%.

> Glibness was mistook for wisdom.

You listed three realist authors. This is like complaining because you expected your apple to taste like an orange.

Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

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An old profesor of mine who used to review computer science books as a side gig told me he never bothered to read them, all he needed to do was check the contents page to see if they were good or not. I've been applying that method for figuring out whether a non fiction book is good or not and it works like a charm.if the contents are in a weird order or there isn't the right amount of specificity in the contents its prob not good. Also don't commit to reading any big non fiction books without checking Wikipedia and doing some 30 min research on the topic first. Easier to spot the bs that way

Re: Ask HN: Are a lot of books just useless?

#20
Absolutely yes - a lot of nonfiction books that are intended to be a deep dive into a particular topic written by experts are like this, and I think it's clearly because they need to hit a page count as you've suggested.

I just finished a book called Arbitrary Lines, about land zoning in the US. I was looking for a really deep dive into the history of zoning and how it ended up in its current state, or perhaps comparative analysis of different zoning policies. In reality, the book was maybe 25% technical/historical information about zoning and 75% the author going off about how zoning is unfair and leads to inequality. That's all fine, but I was picking up the book because I already have a clear understanding that zoning is the source of problems and wanted to understand how we got to where we are (and maybe learn about what the expected benefits of the existing zoning rules are that got them implemented, which the author didn't even pretend to be interested in because he's totally anti-zoning).

In any case, this is all to say that I strong recommend two things. First, skim! You don't actually have to read the whole book. I'm currently reading a book called Limitless, which is about the Fed's actions during the early days of the pandemic. It started with some history of the Fed, which makes sense in context, but I've already read about the history of the Fed, so I just read initial paragraphs of chapters and initial sentences of paragraphs to make sure I wasn't missing anything important by skipping it. Second, be willing to put down books. It took me a while to be okay with this, but at the end of the day you only have so much reading time in your life, and there's no shame in setting down a book that's disappointing and moving on to something else.

In terms of finding books, if you're looking for this kind of nonfiction, I like recommendations from experts. I really like Bill Gates' reading list. NPR Best Books (https://apps.npr.org/best-books) as well.

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