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Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

This is almost as stupid as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_tax

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

That may explain why it is exactly 30 minutes, but, despite some counterexamples, that we don't see more product differentiation enabling the consumer to choose between a camera with the limit and an "upgraded" model (i.e. the same camera with the limit disabled) suggests that underlying that the manufacturer recognizes that the consumer would rather buy under-specced hardware that can't handle much more than 30 minu…

Price discrimination is probably another, there’s a huge price jump between home video and production video equipment.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use a $500 video camera rather than a $5,000 DSLR setup?

5,000$ DSLR’s take better video than $500 video cameras. So I think it’s just price discrimination. They want people to buy 50,000$ video cameras not 5,000$ DSLR’s.

$5000 DSLRs have huge APSC/Full frame sensors to try and cool... try and take a bulb mode shot on one and let me know if they let you past 30 minutes.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

Finally. The first _good_ reason for Brexit.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

It’s always interesting to find what businesses will do to lower these. My favorite is Converse sneakers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-converse-sneakers-...

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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post #11
post #2

Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

This is almost as stupid as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_tax

>At that time, many people in Britain opposed income tax, on principle, because the disclosure of personal income represented an unacceptable governmental intrusion into private matters, and a potential threat to personal liberty.

I didn't know the British used to be so cool.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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post #2

Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

Finally. The first _good_ reason for Brexit.

Don’t know about that. Brexit only created yet another tax/regulatory domain that companies have to negotiate.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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The fact is when you are recording a good quality video you never go over a few minutes of recording. So usually it doesn't bother film makers too much. If you're recording a live opera it's a problem but then you usually have much higher quality gear without the limitations of a DSLR.

> The fact is when you are recording a good quality video you never go over a few minutes of recording

I've made home sex tapes longer than 30 minutes, imagine stopping in the middle to start a new file on the camera! Or imagine someone filming the birth of their child and failing to capture it because the camera timed out at an inopportune moment.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

But why are there such high import duties for something they don't even manufacture? There's no domestic industry to give an advantage to through this.

Re: Ask HN: Why do cameras stop recording after 30 minutes?

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post #2

Like most head scratchers, it’s EU taxes. The import taxes are higher on video cameras than still cameras, so they artificially limit the length of videos you can record to avoid being classified as a video camera. > Video camera recorders are subject to import duty of 4.9% or 14%, still image cameras are duty free. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2016-00127... (Update: included better link)

Finally. The first _good_ reason for Brexit.

Because you really want to record movies longer than 30 minutes on your phone?

Not even sure if the UK has changed this already.

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