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Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by nvln »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #6

I used NextJS and Firebase and while I disliked some of it: I would use it again because if the benefits of speed in building. With this setup you can permanently host for next to nothing until you get users, do zero devops or ops, and have something that will scale up (wont be the fastest thing but it will be OK and will scale) You could switch out NextJS for a static site generator too, but NextJS is pretty conveni…

Thank you, 'the next to nothing' bit is very helpful. I'd like to have a decent runway and a decent protection for my wallet just in case the MVP takes off in terms of user growth but not in terms of revenue growth.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by Hortinstein »

v3ss0n wrote: post #10

Supabase is very resource intensive. Django+drf+ spectacular+filters+jwt gives you all the perks of supabase with - much easier syntax - much lighter weight - alot higher productivity - UI auto generation

I am curious to know more, can you point me in the direction of any blog posts outlining this stack? I have been using supabase for a few months and for local dev it is pretty heavy

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by bittermandel »

1. FastAPI (Python) or Axum (Rust) for back-end, deployed on Fly.io.

2. Supabase for Postgres and Authentication.

3. Astro as a framework for front-end, deployed on Vercel, running in Hybrid mode.

With all of these in-place, I can extend my existing components to accommodate any needs. It scales very well in the beginning as I move very fast, and anecdotally scales very well regardless of size.

The only missing parts here is support for timed jobs, but that can probably be done with Fly.io machines in the future.

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Post by physicsguy »

Django, in my previous role we did MVP websites for academics and the speed of getting a site up and running and deployed was just so fast. I’ve never worked with anything else that is as fast, anything like FastAPI or Flask or Express or similar either requires additional libraries to add really basic and common functionality or you have to roll it yourself.

I personally don’t think that if you’re building an MVP you should be worrying that much about how to store users in the database and add RBAC and building a way to add middleware and a storage layer and all of that crap. It’s not worth it, your application is not a special snowflake.

Edit: Should say that with that I mean serving HTML via Django. Usually I would use Bootstrap for layout. Very occasionally I’d add an API for some interactivity but I think for most MVPs interactivity is likely to be a secondary concern until later.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by cultofmetatron »

elixir/phoenix is the best platform for knocking out an MVP today. Its batteries included and has a frontend system called liveview that lets you write most of your frontend using elixir too. You get built in pubsub and websockets which are important for any new kind of software product. Users demand more interactivity and phoenix lets you do it and scale from day 1. Ecto is easily the best sql database library I've ever worked with. Its comparable to linq only it is uses elixir macros so its just a library.

1. you get a lot of out of the box rails like glue jsut like rails or django but the runtime perf is way faster. you can get away without even using caching in prod for awhile

2. supabase is written in elixir

3. lambda could functiosn have their place but loc you in to a cloud provider. I can move my elixir mvps accross providers with no issue and I won't get any surprise bills.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by nikivi »

Trying to make Solid/ChiselStrike stack work. It has its rough edges but I am trying to iron them out so its reusable for all my projects going forward.

https://github.com/learn-anything/learn-anything

Reasoning behind the stack is that I feel productive in Solid and it's plenty fast on first load and as SPA when fully loaded. I love the component model and JSX.

ChiselStrike is new to me but I was looking for something that lets me declaratively manage my schema. I checked https://entgo.io (it produced too many Go files to my liking), also Prisma (https://www.prisma.io), found it bit complex to get started with.

I also checked https://www.edgedb.com and it's nice but with ChiselStrike I can deploy it with LibSQL (fork of SQLite) and replicate it so responses should be plenty fast and I can build on top more easily.

For native apps will use SwiftUI composable architecture when it comes to it. React Native code sharing seems nice but Solid doesn't have a React Native alternative yet sadly.

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