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Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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You could have a new battery installed.

I can't. The screw won't come out. I've tried two different repair shops and none of them were able to remove one of the bottom screws to open the phone.

If you really wanted to you could probably use a small drill bit and drill the screw out and then only use a single screw to secure the screen to the body.

Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could have a new battery installed.

I can't. The screw won't come out. I've tried two different repair shops and none of them were able to remove one of the bottom screws to open the phone.

Screws can be carefully drilled out. Yes I’ve done this. Yes on an iPhone. Yes it ended happily.

Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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“One does not _simply_ not install the latest iOS” -Boromir Biggest flaw of iOS in my experience, I have lost over $1000 in apps not operable due to iOS updates. The apps work fine on my older iOS version devices which have since died due to battery issues.

I'm curious how you managed to spend $1000 on apps?

Big app etite!

Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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post #8

“One does not _simply_ not install the latest iOS” -Boromir Biggest flaw of iOS in my experience, I have lost over $1000 in apps not operable due to iOS updates. The apps work fine on my older iOS version devices which have since died due to battery issues.

I'm curious how you managed to spend $1000 on apps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich

Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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“One does not _simply_ not install the latest iOS” -Boromir Biggest flaw of iOS in my experience, I have lost over $1000 in apps not operable due to iOS updates. The apps work fine on my older iOS version devices which have since died due to battery issues.

I think it’s interesting how software has longevity expectations from some customers that physical products don’t have.

How long is a dinner or drinks supposed to last before you buy another one?

How long is your house supposed to last before you need to make repairs?

How long is gasoline supposed to last before you buy more?

Vacation? Movie tickets? Hotel rooms? Flights? Appliances? Clothes? Shoes? Furniture? Maybe ~10% of the things we buy can be “buy it for life” items.

It seems like a lot of people want more longevity out of software than simple physical objects.

Smartphones weren’t exactly mature 7-10 years ago and we all knew that. If it were me I’d just accept that I spent $1000 on software and got something out of it for the time being.

Life is full of things that are fleeting.

Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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post #15

“One does not _simply_ not install the latest iOS” -Boromir Biggest flaw of iOS in my experience, I have lost over $1000 in apps not operable due to iOS updates. The apps work fine on my older iOS version devices which have since died due to battery issues.

I think it’s interesting how software has longevity expectations from some customers that physical products don’t have. How long is a dinner or drinks supposed to last before you buy another one? How long is your house supposed to last before you need to make repairs? How long is gasoline supposed to last before you buy more? Vacation? Movie tickets? Hotel rooms? Flights? Appliances? Clothes? Shoes? Furniture? Maybe…

These really aren't comparable, and I try to squeeze as much life from my device as possible

Side note: I lived in an apartment in a 400 year old building once, and once lived in a shared house that was 300 years old (both cases were in Germany). Both buildings were renovated and had repairs several times and in a very good condition, and living in them was a great pleasure.

Re: Ask HN: How do you install not the latest iOS version?

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post #15

“One does not _simply_ not install the latest iOS” -Boromir Biggest flaw of iOS in my experience, I have lost over $1000 in apps not operable due to iOS updates. The apps work fine on my older iOS version devices which have since died due to battery issues.

I think it’s interesting how software has longevity expectations from some customers that physical products don’t have. How long is a dinner or drinks supposed to last before you buy another one? How long is your house supposed to last before you need to make repairs? How long is gasoline supposed to last before you buy more? Vacation? Movie tickets? Hotel rooms? Flights? Appliances? Clothes? Shoes? Furniture? Maybe…

Are software consumables like food and gasoline? Do you throw away your entire house after 5 years? What about your books? Movies? Music? Photos? Art?

You can take a 20 year old+ copy of Windows software that shipped on a CD-ROM in a paper box and it'll probably work just fine on Windows 10, maybe it needs some compatibility setting checked or absolute worst case an XP or 2000 VM. Meanwhile what do you do with an 8 year old iOS app? Hunt down old devices on eBay that you hope you can get working?

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