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Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

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post #9

Even if it were freely available, there's no way to run GPT3 or ChatGPT on any existing desktop hardware. The exact hardware requirements aren't public either (yes, very "open") but a full 175-billion-parameter GPT3 instance requires hundreds of gigabytes of GPU memory, and even though ChatGPT is "smaller and better", when it comes to conversational dialogue, there's no way to fit it in current consumer hardware.

Will it ever be an option, perhaps the first option, given some evolution in the software and/or hardware?

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

#12

Luckily, no. Otherwise you (others) could hack the safeties and ask it how to cheaply kill a lot of people or so .. better not make bad people too intelligent! (Obviously not talking about you)

Rename it and ask it to find & kill the virus it created?

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

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post #10

I'm pretty sure the GPT model is huge and does not fit on any conventional GPU. Even if they open-sourced the weights, I don't think most people would be running it at home. Also regarding the text limits, AFAIK, there's just an inherent limit in the architecture. Transformers are trained on finite-length sequences (I think their latest uses 4096 tokens). I have been trying to understand how ChatGPT seems to be able…

I don't think ChatGPT does. I have had long discussions with it, with some rules agreed upon in the beginning, and at some point it clearly begins to forget the exact rules and has to be reminded of them. (Specifically, AI Dungeon type games where ChatGPT is the DM and the human the protagonist, or vice versa. The most common failure mode seems to be that it forgets whether it's playing the DM or the protagonist. To…

In a previous thread (which I can not find right now) the recommendation was to either ask it to summarize what happened earlier, or do this job yourself from time to time.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

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I don't much follow AI news beyond what I randomly happen to see on HN, but this might still be the largest open source model: https://github.com/yandex/YaLM-100B . There's discussion of it here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/vpn0r1/d_h... - at the bottom of that page is a comment from someone who actually ran it in the cloud.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

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I'm pretty sure the GPT model is huge and does not fit on any conventional GPU. Even if they open-sourced the weights, I don't think most people would be running it at home. Also regarding the text limits, AFAIK, there's just an inherent limit in the architecture. Transformers are trained on finite-length sequences (I think their latest uses 4096 tokens). I have been trying to understand how ChatGPT seems to be able…

Yeah it wouldn't fit. GPT3 is 175B params, so even if you use 8 bit for each weight, you need 175×10^9÷2^30 = 163GiB of memory.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

#16

OpenAI is 'open' in the name only, so no. I don't think they have any plans of opening full access to the public either, considering that their previous model (that ChatGPT builds upon) was sold to Microsoft for exclusive use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-3

It's really obnoxious for non-open companies to include "open" in the name. Stolen valour, basically.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

#17

Luckily, no. Otherwise you (others) could hack the safeties and ask it how to cheaply kill a lot of people or so .. better not make bad people too intelligent! (Obviously not talking about you)

It's not magic, it doesn't know anything that isn't easily findable public information.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

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post #9

Even if it were freely available, there's no way to run GPT3 or ChatGPT on any existing desktop hardware. The exact hardware requirements aren't public either (yes, very "open") but a full 175-billion-parameter GPT3 instance requires hundreds of gigabytes of GPU memory, and even though ChatGPT is "smaller and better", when it comes to conversational dialogue, there's no way to fit it in current consumer hardware.

Will it ever be an option, perhaps the first option, given some evolution in the software and/or hardware?

Ever? Likely. Hardware keeps improving, and better training techniques will almost certainly keep shrinking model sizes ceteris paribus. But one should also remember that these are static models that can't learn anything that was not present in the original training corpus, so for some use cases that rely on current information they're simply not a good match. And training a model like this requires vastly more hardware (and human) resources than just using it. Never mind the issue of collecting a corpus in the first place.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

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post #16

OpenAI is 'open' in the name only, so no. I don't think they have any plans of opening full access to the public either, considering that their previous model (that ChatGPT builds upon) was sold to Microsoft for exclusive use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-3

It's really obnoxious for non-open companies to include "open" in the name. Stolen valour, basically.

Open as in "open for business" not as in "open source", you might say.

Re: Ask HN: Can I download GPT / ChatGPT to my desktop?

#20
It's not possible post GPT2 for the reasons given by others.

Open communities with potential for involving yourself include Hugging Face and EleutherAI, the former perhaps more accessible, the latter an active Discord.

It's been a while since I spent time looking at them, I'm not sure if there is something you can easily get up and running with.

https://huggingface.co/

https://www.eleuther.ai/

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