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Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by throwaway71271 »

rvz wrote: post #9

One may suggest to 'learn to code', but it is not enough this time. Perhaps now one may say, it is time to 'learn to adapt', since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be more motivated to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated. So this time it is indeed different and I would expect less engineers to be hired and more programming jobs to be…

This is just as good as a prediction as the alternative: ChatGPT will be the new gold age of programming, all you need in any company is only programmers, all kinds of programmers, no other job will be able to do anything of value.

So everyone who knows how to do a for loop is safe.

Or the extreme, we finally have to move to post-money society, because automation is no longer creating any jobs.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by robertlagrant »

rvz wrote: post #9

One may suggest to 'learn to code', but it is not enough this time. Perhaps now one may say, it is time to 'learn to adapt', since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be more motivated to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated. So this time it is indeed different and I would expect less engineers to be hired and more programming jobs to be…

> since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be inclined to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated

I don't understand the relevance of ChatGPT to this.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by joshribakoff »

rvz wrote: post #9

One may suggest to 'learn to code', but it is not enough this time. Perhaps now one may say, it is time to 'learn to adapt', since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be more motivated to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated. So this time it is indeed different and I would expect less engineers to be hired and more programming jobs to be…

I don’t get the nexus between the release of chatGPT and rising interest rates. Are you implying the former somehow caused the latter?

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by 0xsnowcrash »

I'm regularly getting enquiries but I do DevOps (AWS, Kubernetes and Istio) so I guess my skillset is still in demand.

I guess what's more important for me is the type of work. I'm looking for startup work that's a bit more secure now, if that's possible, lol! Doesn't seem so easy to find.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by adamcharnock »

a-bit-of-code wrote: post #10
ryandetzel wrote: post #3

Laid off from Twitter three weeks ago, lots of interest and cool companies out there. I binged interviews and have three offers to consider. Senior eng with 20 years experience

For that kind of seniority/experience, what fraction of companies asked LeetCodey stuff? Was it easy or medium/hard problems? How much time did you have to spend preparing/practicing?

Not the OP, but with similar experience levels and I’ve never done a LeetCode interview, and even regular interviews are pretty light. I mostly contract though, and they generally offer me full time after a little while if I want it.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by throw_aws_inter »

I interviewed for 1.5 months (!!!) for AWS for a senior position, went through all the stages through the end. Then silence. I kept emailing the recruiters responsible for my interview, I kept getting out-of-office replies. Then I contacted some higher ups I found, told me they assigned my interview to other recruiters. No replies from them though. I have emailed them a bunch of times including the higher up. Then the news about Amazon layoffs got out; I presume they all got fired?

What a gigantic waste of time. Tons of stress for 2-3 months for nothing.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by ackbar03 »

joshribakoff wrote: post #13
rvz wrote: post #9

One may suggest to 'learn to code', but it is not enough this time. Perhaps now one may say, it is time to 'learn to adapt', since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be more motivated to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated. So this time it is indeed different and I would expect less engineers to be hired and more programming jobs to be…

I don’t get the nexus between the release of chatGPT and rising interest rates. Are you implying the former somehow caused the latter?

My guess would be either chatGPT convinced JPowell to raise rates, or a large chunk of the world's money supply was spent training chatGPT

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by joxel »

ackbar03 wrote: post #17
joshribakoff wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get the nexus between the release of chatGPT and rising interest rates. Are you implying the former somehow caused the latter?

My guess would be either chatGPT convinced JPowell to raise rates, or a large chunk of the world's money supply was spent training chatGPT

I like to the the original comment is written by an older NLP model

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by base698 »

robertlagrant wrote: post #12
rvz wrote: post #9

One may suggest to 'learn to code', but it is not enough this time. Perhaps now one may say, it is time to 'learn to adapt', since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be more motivated to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated. So this time it is indeed different and I would expect less engineers to be hired and more programming jobs to be…

> since with the recent release of ChatGPT now gives the excuse for managers to be inclined to hire less engineers and programmers as the cheap money has essentially evaporated I don't understand the relevance of ChatGPT to this.

I assume because I've seen ChatGPT successfully:

- write a Gitlab ci job that tests python code and outputs a junit test report.

- can you add code coverage?

- write a sql table that has users, age, and a biography

- write python that parses the above output from the table

- now use a lexer and parser

- create a unit test to verify it's correct.

- write a perl one liner that parses a list of users and phone numbers

It completed all of them. I was already impressed with OpenAI when it generated an argument for why Britney Spears should become president and a test for a third grader about Socrates which I then answered incorrectly and had it grade it.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by chlmtt »

cosmic_quanta wrote: post #4
chlmtt wrote: post #2

I used to work at a hardware store. As in literal bolts and nuts type of tech, not software related:) Recently lost my job. Originally from Kazakhstan. Thinking of going back if I can't find anything else. No credentials to speak of other than the fact that I could probably think my way out of an undergrad level abstract algebra or real analysis problem if cornered. Maybe topology, too. Native speaker of both Kazakh…

I don't have any work for you, but it would have helped if you had described your software engineering / computer science skills in more details. I'm not familiar with CLRS.

The other users correctly disambiguated CLRS. I am not experienced with software other than the rudimentary syntax of Python and Scheme. Read a CS book years ago based on the latter. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had any kind of job for me. Maybe something like data entry. Would have to learn coding in earnest after I pick up algo design techniques from CLRS.
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