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Re: Ask HN: Does the blockchain improve any parts of the existing tech stack by 10x?

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No.

Since you're big on privacy, do you see potential value in better user data systems created on distributed networks? Probably along these lines: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/7163223

There's a lot of cool privacy stuff you can do with zero-knowledge tech (not necessarily blockchain) but the biggest problem is that companies can just... not adopt that tech because they'd make less money.

Re: Ask HN: Does the blockchain improve any parts of the existing tech stack by 10x?

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Better database for specific industries (financial data?) - Core value is not relying on third-party servers by using IPFS So instead of relying on a third-party with a contract, they'd instead rely on a peer-to-peer network with no SLA? LOL Better authentication (the in-browser wallet auth is smooth!) Oh, it's plenty smooth alright - seems like a day doesn't go by without somebody's apes getting snatched with just a…

alright, I don't fully disagree with this sentiment.

on (2), isn't that an application-layer fix? i.e build better/more secure wallets.

the underlying identity system with addresses seems useful is what I meant. I like to think of interesting access control systems that can be built upon this. using a wallet's ownership data/activity, you can assign access/rights.

Re: Ask HN: Does the blockchain improve any parts of the existing tech stack by 10x?

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It has incredible potential according to all the 12 year olds financial advisors of tiktok. Please go waste your life trying to solve problems with crypto and leave the rest of us alone.

LOL - can't disrespect the 12 yo who just told me to buy AlphaGenMoon Coin to 100x my investment in 10 days.

Re: Ask HN: Does the blockchain improve any parts of the existing tech stack by 10x?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you're big on privacy, do you see potential value in better user data systems created on distributed networks? Probably along these lines: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/7163223

There's a lot of cool privacy stuff you can do with zero-knowledge tech (not necessarily blockchain) but the biggest problem is that companies can just... not adopt that tech because they'd make less money.

i see. that's a game theory lens.

while it probably makes sense for certain consumer data companies, do you think about cases where poor data security/privacy actually harms the company? eg: when sensitive company data gets leaked during third-party interactions?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of cool privacy stuff you can do with zero-knowledge tech (not necessarily blockchain) but the biggest problem is that companies can just... not adopt that tech because they'd make less money.

i see. that's a game theory lens. while it probably makes sense for certain consumer data companies, do you think about cases where poor data security/privacy actually harms the company? eg: when sensitive company data gets leaked during third-party interactions?

Then you get into the fact that the tech is really complex and slow so the cost doesn't offset the benefits.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i see. that's a game theory lens. while it probably makes sense for certain consumer data companies, do you think about cases where poor data security/privacy actually harms the company? eg: when sensitive company data gets leaked during third-party interactions?

Then you get into the fact that the tech is really complex and slow so the cost doesn't offset the benefits.

well, bringing the cost down is probably just a matter of time, isn't it?

what i think is more important is finding form factors of using zK that make sense to enterprises. from outgoing api calls to file sharing, the scope of vulnerabilities is extremely large.

Re: Ask HN: Does the blockchain improve any parts of the existing tech stack by 10x?

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It's an interesting tech demo for a very niche use case: when you need both a decentralized database and a way to avoid editing history (e.g. "double-spending"). All of the uses you mentioned only need one or the other. If you need to keep track of transactions like a ledger, it's trivial to use a normal, centralized database with a published transaction log for trust-free audits. That gets you protection against double-spending without any of the inefficiency of blockchain tech. For the other side, you can have something like bittorrent or IPFS (which is not blockchain tech, BTW) where there is no central gatekeeper, but rewriting history doesn't matter. There's just darn little in that intersection of the Venn diagram.

Re: Ask HN: Does the blockchain improve any parts of the existing tech stack by 10x?

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It's an interesting tech demo for a very niche use case: when you need both a decentralized database and a way to avoid editing history (e.g. "double-spending"). All of the uses you mentioned only need one or the other. If you need to keep track of transactions like a ledger, it's trivial to use a normal, centralized database with a published transaction log for trust-free audits. That gets you protection against dou…

care to elaborate more on what you see does exist at that intersection?
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