Ask HN: Best way to build a SaaS product for a non-tech founder

There is an open source React based framework called "refine."

It eliminates the repetitive tasks demanded by CRUD operations and provides solutions for critical parts like authentication, access control, routing, networking, state management, and i18n.

So your developers can save a lot of time on the development process. Here is the repo: https://github.com/refinedev/refine

- Document the idea on paper

- Do Mockups, storyboards, Wireframes etc. Doesn't have to be perfect and you may end up with something else in the future but you need to do this to actually formalize the idea. Otherwise, it is just in your head and no serious technical person would want to engage further. Suggestions: Use tools like Whimsical (big fan), Miro and many others. Old school Balsamiq will work as well.

- If you want to build a real SAAS business, your goal is to find a fully committed technical person/CTO ideally. Freelancers may take your money and even build something ok (a big if though) but if they don't have skin in the game, you will end up back at square one because code needs to be re-written/thrown at times especially from MVP stages.

Ultimately, you have to sell the idea, the vision with details on how you can achieve good growth for a good tech/CTO stranger to take you seriously. That is the unfortunate fact.

https://anvil.works/

that said, i've never used that particular tool or really any of them, but Anvil changed their pricing recently to make things more startup-friendly, imo.

You'd still face all the same questions tho.

There are anvil-type partner agencies that presumably build saas apps pretty regularly. maybe search out some of the 'no/low-code businesses that made it'-type sites that seem to pop up every once in a while. a lot of it is hype, imo, but... possibly still legit.

I don't know if HN has a "What do you think about this type of app?" post type, but maybe you could put it in 'Ask HN' without getting downvoted to hell?

That can bring good and bad, too, so not sure it's all that useful. Some people love to hate.

But you might be able to find someone who is particularly interested in your idea and wants to help.

I have a couple of folks I use for relatively inexpensive development of saas apps using Laravel (a PHP-based framework), sometimes with various plugins - they're small operations so that's good, but it's not multiple people with a project manager, etc., so there's just going to be more work you have to do in that situation - which can be tough if you're trying to take care of your day job, too. Feel free to ping me.

Anvil can seemingly do a lot, but might not be able to do everything -- like, it might not be able to easily do team-based or multi-tenant saas (like Trello), whereas it prob can do a regular/simple saas like your personal gmail account easily enough. and building an app - like a native iphone/android app - is a diff ball of wax. $50k alone type of thing.

i use balsamiq for mockups and it's great. i use the 2-project plan, and retire/unretire projects as needed - the higher-level plans are too expensive for my blood. there is nothing else that comes close to balsamiq, imo. everything else is too complicated, or too garbage, or too pricey, or too whatever.

i usually start with pen (or pencil) and paper, a notebook, and start making notes, drawing screens, etc. then i take it to my dev and say, "here, please do this, and please give me an estimate of cost and timeline."

my latest project built this way is this:

https://navbarlinks.com/

i'm pleased with that outcome, and i may do further dev on it, not sure yet.

Ideate and create your wireframes, mockups, prototypes, etc. You have to make your idea visible and ready to talk to others. Some tools that can help you with this are Whimsical (flowchart), Visily (wireframe and mockup), Justinmind (Prototype). This step can wrap up all your idea and you can use them for presenting to others. In the end, no one can succeed alone, find a Co-founder - a CTO to build up the product with you. You can have some freelancers to execute and build an MVP.