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Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Thank you. No I didn't know about HN back then...the only reason I stayed in that job was because I had to pay for my education, I worked and went to school at the same time. What do you mean by heavy metal toxicity?

I am thinking one of the most common sources: Mercury toxicity from amalgam fillings. They can test your hair for it. I'd look at getting some tests done although I've never gone down that route myself so can't advise. Do you have a passion for anything, or only feeling bad about yourself and your situation? Have you read the Power of Now, it says to separate your life from your life situation?

Oh I see...what makes you think I may have that? It might be possible...I have had fillings.

I don't really have a passion I am obsessed with being successful, I feel I've wasted 6 years of my life that I will never get back, I feel that I have not accomplished anything worthwhile and for some reason I constantly feel jealous of everyone else's success, this has made me bitter too.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am thinking one of the most common sources: Mercury toxicity from amalgam fillings. They can test your hair for it. I'd look at getting some tests done although I've never gone down that route myself so can't advise. Do you have a passion for anything, or only feeling bad about yourself and your situation? Have you read the Power of Now, it says to separate your life from your life situation?

Oh I see...what makes you think I may have that? It might be possible...I have had fillings. I don't really have a passion I am obsessed with being successful, I feel I've wasted 6 years of my life that I will never get back, I feel that I have not accomplished anything worthwhile and for some reason I constantly feel jealous of everyone else's success, this has made me bitter too.

Yes, yes, could well be Mercury toxicity, especially if you've had many large ones, for a long period of time.

I was reading that: "Amalgam Fillings Since 1970s Unstable: The type of mercury fillings that began to be used during the last couple of decades, non-gamma-2 (high copper), releases many times more mercury than the older style of amalgam fillings."

http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam/

Start getting into health is my tip, you can't lose. The Paleo diet is very popular right now, check it out.

"With raw in general, I have noticed more stamina and energy, and less need for sleep, greater clarity of thought, faster healing, looking younger, fewer joint problems, etc. the usual."

http://old.rawpaleodiet.com/michael-grogan/

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Think of a creative side project that you would really enjoy doing. Then do it. And take your time on it. Slow down. Tune out from what everyone else is doing. You have to give yourself time and space to breathe. Don't put pressure on yourself, make it fun!

Don't worry about reading SICP or becoming an expert at some technology. That will come automatically over time. Just choose one stack for your side project and go with it.

It doesn't matter if you code your project in C, clojure, or ruby. What matters is that you produce something that you feel good about. If you make a goal to produce something good, you will learn the technologies and you will become a good hacker over time.

I write all this because I was in the same position as you a couple years ago, so I scrapped my ambition of reading theoretical CS books and learning all the latest hot new technologies (I will do all that stuff later). I decided I'd make a game, and learn what I need to add the features that I imagined. And I progressed. It was so much more fun that way.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Go slow. Pressure is anathema to self-improvement, you just implode. I've been trying for the last six months to get into a routine of teaching myself things, and I've only just got to the point where I can look back on my night without noting that I could have accomplished as much within ten minutes of motivated effort.

Don't load up on textbooks. Buy one and finish it before devoting yourself to the next one. I didn't follow this rule, and now I have stacks of books that I'm trying to read in parallel (this is going terribly).

I think it's great that you want to do this! Just know that even wanting to improve yourself is a small victory - too many of my coworkers are happy to only know as much as their jobs requires them to, or (more accurately) so they believe it requires them to. Keep me posted on how stuff goes!

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Think of a creative side project that you would really enjoy doing. Then do it. And take your time on it. Slow down. Tune out from what everyone else is doing. You have to give yourself time and space to breathe. Don't put pressure on yourself, make it fun! Don't worry about reading SICP or becoming an expert at some technology. That will come automatically over time. Just choose one stack for your side project and g…

Thank you.

I have several ideas for side projects, at first I am really motivated and very excited but very soon the motivation wears down and by then it stops being fun, I lack the will power of sticking through to the end because in the end I constantly fear that I will fail and if I am going to fail anyway, why try it?

This is ruining me I know I can't be like this but I don't know what to do to stop having these thoughts.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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What you see on HN/TechCrunch/whatever has a strong "success bias." What this means is that you only get to see/read success stories. But there are also many people just like yourself who are just starting out. Many have failures under their belts. Even the people who are successful today have failed in the past!

It sounds like you're practicing too much "theory" and reading, instead of creating. This will make anyone feel bad. The people you admire did not get where they are by reading HN/books/etc. alone. They got there by doing things.

As others have said, pick a side project and hack at it -- release it, fail, and try again, and again. The beautiful thing about the tech community is that failure is encouraged and embraced. By doing things over and over is how we learn and establish ourselves. Your projects will suck at first, you will get no users at first, you will make no money at first (if you care about $). And then you'll iterate and improve. It's only normal.

Finally, as far as picking projects goes, don't pick a pie-in-the-sky-idea! Pick something you can finish in two or three weeks, or maybe even shorter. Anything longer and you'll get disappointed at your lack of progress. You don't have to create the next Facebook. Create a throwaway app for the app store (and don't be discouraged if you don't make much from it.) Learning how to ship small projects will be incredibly painful but that is how you will grow and become happier with yourself. HTH.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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Go slow. Pressure is anathema to self-improvement, you just implode. I've been trying for the last six months to get into a routine of teaching myself things, and I've only just got to the point where I can look back on my night without noting that I could have accomplished as much within ten minutes of motivated effort. Don't load up on textbooks. Buy one and finish it before devoting yourself to the next one. I did…

Thank you.

Yes I did the mistake of getting all these books, I even made a schedule, I was going to study one book on mondays then another on tuesdays and so on but I always fail I can't teach myself anything, it sucks and it makes me angry with myself.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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I'm often right there with you. I'm 25 and I often feel like shit because everyone else seems so much smarter and doing much greater things than me.

After feeling miserable about myself for some periods of time I end up meeting some cool people who are in the same line of work and I found that my thoughts were just not true. Honestly, it's close to impossible to know everything about programming like you want to. You probably know far more than a lot of people who are trying to do startups already! No joke! There are people who think knowing HTML and CSS is enough for them to make the next Facebook/Google/whatever.

Then there are always going to be people who know far more than you. Most of those people are here on HN. You can't feel worthless because you're not as good as you think you need to be. You'll never be good enough if you keep thinking this way.

I'm just like you and I was inspired by the community here to start my business and I love it but I still feel like what I've done is total crap compared to what a lot of folks here are doing. That's okay. The thing about programming is that you need to break things up into manageable chunks. It sounds like you're trying to do too much at once. One feature at a time. One database call, one AJAX request, one link to a CSS file at a time. Go slowly, work your way up and one day you'll look back and be amazed that all those tiny incremental implementations added up to this one huge app or whatever you're trying to build.

Remember too that everyone specializes in something. You know CRUD apps. Other guys know design. Others are generalist. You know what we all have in common? Everyone copy/pastes code from online from time to time! It doesn't mean you're not a programmer. It just means you haven't learned one specific part of programming yet. Honestly, working your way up from those stupid Hello World examples is the way to go.

I wrote a lot because I often feel just like you and I know how much it sucks. It's okay. There are so many people out there who would be astonished at what you know already that you wouldn't believe. When you hang around HN you're hanging with the best of the best and you don't want to be comparing yourself with them just yet. Be inspired, learn as much as you can but remember that there is so much to learn that you'll be learning to program until the day you die. My best advice would be to focus on one single skill you want at a time and work your way up from the damn Hello World examples even though I know it seems like you know enough to skip them. They will help.

Good luck to you, man. Feel free to get in touch by email, maybe you and I can build something cool together and prove yourself wrong about not being a real programmer.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome strong feelings of worthlesness and inadequacy

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post #17

What you see on HN/TechCrunch/whatever has a strong "success bias." What this means is that you only get to see/read success stories. But there are also many people just like yourself who are just starting out. Many have failures under their belts. Even the people who are successful today have failed in the past! It sounds like you're practicing too much "theory" and reading, instead of creating. This will make anyon…

Yes! You said just what I was thinking. Thank you for being able to articulate it better than I could.
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