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Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?

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Post by M95D »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #10
mccorrinall wrote: post #7

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Without DRM support much less people would use firefox because they actually want to use the netflix and prime subscriptions. As I haven’t seen other websites than such movie streaming sites using DRM, I don’t think it’s another mail in the coffin. It doesn’t actively hurt anyone, and it does not stop shows to be ripped and released on tpb. It’s just an alibi for movie makers. So, what’s the fuss about it?

It's really dumb, but that's not on the browsers that implement it, but on the websites that use it. As you pointed out, content will still be ripped so, once again, this only serves to inconvenience the users. But browsers won't force you to use netflix & al. so it's up to the user to not use those sites. If I'm gonna shout at firefox, the fact that they aren't first implementing CSS features that the internet has b…

What happens when wordpress starts using DRM for images, or even text? How many websites the browser "won't force you" to visit then? DRM is now one .js link/plugin/dependency away from any website.

Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

M95D wrote: post #11
DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really dumb, but that's not on the browsers that implement it, but on the websites that use it. As you pointed out, content will still be ripped so, once again, this only serves to inconvenience the users. But browsers won't force you to use netflix & al. so it's up to the user to not use those sites. If I'm gonna shout at firefox, the fact that they aren't first implementing CSS features that the internet has b…

What happens when wordpress starts using DRM for images, or even text? How many websites the browser "won't force you" to visit then? DRM is now one .js link/plugin/dependency away from any website.

Then I just stop visiting the sites that use it, while everyone else will just continue to do so while bitching about not liking it.

It's really simple: You either use sites with DRM and thereby accept it, or you don't. There's no point in crying about how browsers shouldn't even give you the choice.

Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?

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Post by M95D »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #13
M95D wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when wordpress starts using DRM for images, or even text? How many websites the browser "won't force you" to visit then? DRM is now one .js link/plugin/dependency away from any website.

Then I just stop visiting the sites that use it, while everyone else will just continue to do so while bitching about not liking it. It's really simple: You either use sites with DRM and thereby accept it, or you don't. There's no point in crying about how browsers shouldn't even give you the choice.

Can I really stop visiting sites that use javascript? All of them use it. Can I really stop visiting websites that load facebook? Google trackers? Sure I can. And then I can cancel my internet service too.

If anyone applies DRM on html, you can't even use ad blockers anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?

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Post by verisimilitudes »

dang wrote: post #9
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> there's an automated rule here that tries to punish discussion of this topic, since Internet censorship doesn't belong on Hacker News apparently. There's no such automated rule, and internet censorship gets discussed on Hacker News extensively. Would you please stop posting unsubstantive, low-quality, and flamebait comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we're trying for something else here. In fact, you've…

Hey, Dang. Why do I keep getting flagged or killed? I was told to start posting about things other than my website, but all of those end up dead just the same? What am I doing wrong here?

Re: Ask HN: Is DRM on firefox another nail in the coffin of free internet?

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Post by dang »

verisimilitudes wrote: post #15
dang wrote: post #9

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> there's an automated rule here that tries to punish discussion of this topic, since Internet censorship doesn't belong on Hacker News apparently. There's no such automated rule, and internet censorship gets discussed on Hacker News extensively. Would you please stop posting unsubstantive, low-quality, and flamebait comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we're trying for something else here. In fact, you've…

Hey, Dang. Why do I keep getting flagged or killed? I was told to start posting about things other than my website, but all of those end up dead just the same? What am I doing wrong here?

You're posting all kinds of offtopic flamebait. Please stop.
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