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Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

#11
There're some good comments on this thread.

This seems like an issue with the Org given the information posted, but it also seems like you have a somewhat supportive manager. There is a lot of merit for considering finding a new role or a more "temporally normal" Org.

If your goal is to only work a 9-5 schedule starting your own company may not be the best option, but YMMV.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

#12
It is absolutely possible. Where I work, developers have no more than 4-6 hours of meetings per week!

We do meandering sync calls[1] for 1 hour, four times a week. Plus a weekly demo call.

It's a matter of how much your management cares about developer experience and efficiency. Get another job :)

[1]: https://www.honeycomb.io/blog/standup-meetings-are-dead/

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

#14
I'll be completely honest: I work at small indie game dev studio with friends. This means we have to crunch for release, work every day and stay at night sometimes. Nobody force me to do it, but it happens. I love this job, but working like that is bad for long-term performance and will inevitable cause burnout.

As others have said you are being overworked by your employeer. It's not only mean they dont care about your health, but also it means their processes are bad exactly because company itself will only lose in the end: quality will drop, productivity will sink and people will leave.

As about working on your own be it freelance or starting your own company: this way you will only have to work much more. So far I haven't seen any single successful entrepreneur or founder who wasn't working 12 hours a day for at least several years before they get anywhere.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

#16
I work a strict 9am–6pm schedule from western Europe, and interact with both Asian and American colleagues. I simply decline all meetings that are outside of my work window, and it would probably be against the law for my management to expect me to do otherwise ("right to disconnect").

I do know, however, that some of my colleagues in Asian countries feel an non-official pressure to accept late-evening meetings so that European and American colleagues may participate.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

#17
post #15

I've had a single late night meeting in my 7 year career, so yes it's absolutely possible. But, you may need to change job.

Besides 6 months at an Israeli company where the weekends are Friday+Saturday, I’ve never had work meetings outside business hours.

I’ve had two employers who had one “let’s all work late and eat together” day a week, but this was consistent and coordinated with everyone’s families.

Unpredictable work hours are entirely avoidable if you’re not in a startup.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to have a structured work day in software dev?

#18
I very rarely have late meetings, so I can usually keep to about a 8-16 schedule as a senior developer. I even usually manage to have lunch at the same time day-to-day. I guess it helps that almost all of our developers are in the same timezone as I am, and the few that aren't, are usually just a couple of hours off.
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