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Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

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Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#11
If you got a job at a high-status tech company in California, you can get another job at a different tech company. It's like complaining you got into Harvard and other Ivy League schools wouldn't want you.

If you want to work on something different, you can only do that by getting a different job, either in the same company or at another one. If you stay where you are, you know you won't get what you want, so you need to make a move.

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#13
Firstly, YOU ARE NOT ALONE! Beyond the Great Recession and the Great Resignation, i firmly believe i'm beginning to see the Great Malaise everywhere! Its not just here about jobs/careers, but many places that i look, and with many people that i speak.

With that out of the way, and at risk to your cognitive load (by adding something else to your life), have you considered taking up a hobby/interest that is unrelated to your profession, and unrelated to the EE and Sec. learning that you're doing? It might sound silly, but maybe you need to activate other parts of your brain - hence a hobby might do the trick. Alternatively, if you want to dive into your learning path...have you considered contributing your time or code, etc. to an open source project that is aligned with your security learning? This could get you some real-world experience in security, enable you to connect with a network of people for future (hopefully more fulfilling) job, help you feel good about donating time to some open source goodness...and ultimately distract you from your dayjob...at least until you're ready to jump. ;-)

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#14
This is called burnout, you don't fix it by doing more work - including self study.

Take a long weekend every few weeks, go to yosemite. Or fly to vegas and cut loose. Pick up golf or pickleball or whatever. Make some friends who aren't engineers and live a bit.

Then you can come back to work with a fresh mind and care enough to get your shit done well.

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#15
It is probably pretty dependent on your particular work situation, but if you have some freedom in your daily tasks, you could try inserting more interesting small things in amongst the grind.

For example in my job (quite dull) I automated some data collection, stored the data in a database, created a web app to present data from the database, ran it all on a server etc. None of it was anything my boss would have given me as an explicit task, but it was useful stuff that I could make a case for. It was also stuff I hadn't done before and was interested in learning how to do.

Granted, the weight of crappy project management decisions eventually became too much for me to put up with, but for a while I quite liked going in to work and setting up my mini-projects.

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#16
post #14

This is called burnout, you don't fix it by doing more work - including self study. Take a long weekend every few weeks, go to yosemite. Or fly to vegas and cut loose. Pick up golf or pickleball or whatever. Make some friends who aren't engineers and live a bit. Then you can come back to work with a fresh mind and care enough to get your shit done well.

And when you do come back with the fresh mind, have a beginners mind. Work very hard to not fall into your old patterns. Approach things as new. Acting like a beginner but drawing on your old experience in a controlled way is very powerful

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#17

1.)Have kids. 2.)Work at doing something else, since you clearly don’t like what you’re doing. Looks like you’re already doing that, so just keep going. Could your physical activity and health be what’s affecting your mental state?

I don't mean to be rude, but 'Have kids' may be one of the single worst pieces of advice you could give someone who is "plagued with exhaustion and lack of motivation".

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#18
This (posting) is therapy .. and you can also pay for better quality / holistic therapy.

Observe your situation (gather details of the 'problem') & you'll likely naturally make some headway at resolving your difficulties.

Example:

Why did you take the job in the first place?

What excites you about the current job?

There are many reasons to be de-motivated. Something wrong about the job. Something about you. Something that's unconscious, for you, it seems currently. Focus on observing the flow:

* your sensory experience ("my butt really hurts today sitting in this chair")

* => thoughts ("this job requires that I spend a lot of time backing-up what I'm working on with evidence of progress, for the sake of my Manager's approval, and for my Manager's own upward-mobility")

* => evoked memories ("when I was young, Rob took my pencil and claimed I had stolen it from him in the first place")

* => feelings ("this job offends me")

* => and follow-on thoughts ("to be successful at this job I'm going to have to become a different person than who I am now, how am I going to do that, do I want to do that. I really prefer that people just trust me, and not require proof and evidence that I am Good at my Job.").

My mind often has a general Sense > Thought > Memory > Feeling flow in my experience.

Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#19

1.)Have kids. 2.)Work at doing something else, since you clearly don’t like what you’re doing. Looks like you’re already doing that, so just keep going. Could your physical activity and health be what’s affecting your mental state?

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Re: Ask HN: Tips to relearn how to care about my job?

#20
It sounds like you're burned out. Take a vacation ASAP. Take that time to rest. Beyond vacations, make sure you take one day/week where you rest - actually rest. Eschew productivity on that day. This was called sabbath in the past and was connected with religion, but there's much to learn from that tradition of a weekly rhythm of rest to create a secular sabbath. Disconnect - turn off the phone, get away from screens, no social media. Get outside in nature. Hike, bike, row, etc. Let your mind wander. After you feel like you've entered that rested state for while, take some time to reassess your situation.

It's good that you're taking classes and are constantly learning, but consider that in this season of burnout those (vocationally related) activities could be contributing to the problem.

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