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Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

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5-6 containers simultaneously with other applications? 64gb if you don't want to end up with swap. 32gb is the bare minimum. Ram on m1 is split between gpu and cpu. 16gb is more like 10gb available to the actual application. Don't believe in all the hype and misinformation surrounding ram efficiency on m1. Swap is fast enough for most casual users to not notice the impact but as a developer or creator, you will defin…

> 5-6 containers simultaneously with other applications? 64gb if you don't want to end up with swap. 32gb is the bare minimum.

That's not right in my experience. I have the MBP Pro M1 with 32 GB, and have a few VMs with docker containers inside (plus all my IDEs, terminals, google chrome tabs, music, etc.) and 32GB is plenty. Not sure the impact of having running as well Photoshop while all the VMs are up, though.

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

#13
In the UK, the upgrade from 16GB to 32GB is £400 ($460). If you have the laptop for five years and presuming you are buying the laptop outright with no interest, the additional RAM will work out costing you 22 pence (25 cents) a day. For something as vital to both your professional life and hobbies as this laptop sounds, are you going to miss 22 pence a day?

Additionally, if you sell the laptop at the end of the five years or keep it for seven like your current computer, these daily costs will in actuality be even lower.

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

#14
I have an 8, a 16, and a 64

The 8gb was just not enough. It crashed through normal use often

16gb was greatttt but got slow and weird (audio devices would disappear, requiring a restart) , occasionally with Docker Desktop

64gb is a beast and I'm running parallels windows and parallels KDE and even ELECTRON apps simultaneously ( ;) )

If you can afford it, get the 64. If it's too much, I'm guessing 32 will work very well also.

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

#15
I regret that I've chosen 16GB. I thought with the 1 TB fast SSD I could utilize the swap (also 400€ cheaper) and help Docker continue working seamlessly, but working with many containers and many tabs and App's open I can feel the sluggishness switching between windows. If I were to buy new, I'd buy at least 32.

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

#16
Max Ram + CPU has always been a recipe for longevity of a laptop.

For me, RAM is at least a few seconds saved at every step, which adds up to minutes, hours, days and months saved. Waiting for a computer when you spend so much time on it is not something super worthwhile for me.

RAM remains like increased lung capacity for computers.

Apple silicon appears much more efficient per GB of RAM, which might reduce the need for RAM in average use cases.

It entirely remains to be seen if that effect remains as software and operating systems continue to become complex.

To imagine 32 GB is becoming the standards that 16 GB was a while ago doesn't seem unreasonable.

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

#17
post #9

5-6 containers simultaneously with other applications? 64gb if you don't want to end up with swap. 32gb is the bare minimum. Ram on m1 is split between gpu and cpu. 16gb is more like 10gb available to the actual application. Don't believe in all the hype and misinformation surrounding ram efficiency on m1. Swap is fast enough for most casual users to not notice the impact but as a developer or creator, you will defin…

Agreed on 32gb min. My partner has the 16gb model and I have the 32 and developing on hers feels half as fast, it's noticeably slow.

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

#18
32GB minimum, 64GB recommended.

I restarted my Mac. Opened one tab in Chrome + Android Studio + emulator then ran a full unit test run. Memory usage spiked at around 27GB, then down to 17GB 'App Memory' when idle.

I typically have 30-40GB usage (heavy browser usage & 2/3 heavy IDEs)

Re: Ask HN: MacBook Pro M1 16GB vs. 32GB

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post #9

5-6 containers simultaneously with other applications? 64gb if you don't want to end up with swap. 32gb is the bare minimum. Ram on m1 is split between gpu and cpu. 16gb is more like 10gb available to the actual application. Don't believe in all the hype and misinformation surrounding ram efficiency on m1. Swap is fast enough for most casual users to not notice the impact but as a developer or creator, you will defin…

Oh, thanks for clarifying on the swap part. I somehow thought it's as good as let's say DDR2 RAM haha
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