Yes, any project that you create while you are employed by the company, company time or your time, belongs to them. That's what you agreed on when you signed the contract. That's why you hear about some tech founders offering their side project to the company they work for before they continue with their venture. The company can decide to keep it or you can agree with the company that they don't want it and you can k…
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#12As an employee you have a duty of loyalty to your employer. I’m not sure about side projects generally, that is probably a Cyprus specific question. But I’d be shocked if it’s legal anywhere to release a product that competes with what you work on at your job. That’s just common sense. You would likely be violating not just your employment contract, but also trade secret, copyright, patents, etc. This is egregious en…
Incredibly naive if someone does this. In a employee/employer relationship, I believe one should only be loyal to themselves. Again, have integrity and don't steal stuff, but be loyal to yourself.
Re: Ask HN: Should a 'no side projects' policy be taken seriously?
#13As an employee you have a duty of loyalty to your employer. I’m not sure about side projects generally, that is probably a Cyprus specific question. But I’d be shocked if it’s legal anywhere to release a product that competes with what you work on at your job. That’s just common sense. You would likely be violating not just your employment contract, but also trade secret, copyright, patents, etc. This is egregious en…
'As an employee you have a duty of loyalty to your employer' Incredibly naive if someone does this. In a employee/employer relationship, I believe one should only be loyal to themselves. Again, have integrity and don't steal stuff, but be loyal to yourself.
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#15It’s not enforceable if the employer cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that you have used company resources on it. Time, hardware, IP, skills, domain knowledge. First three are obvious but you can be put on the hook for using skills and understanding obtained on company dime, too.
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#16It’s not enforceable if the employer cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that you have used company resources on it. Time, hardware, IP, skills, domain knowledge. First three are obvious but you can be put on the hook for using skills and understanding obtained on company dime, too.
The process is the punishment: their license to sue is typically enough to force you to disgorge any IP rights -- unless you have free attorneys.
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#18Yes, any project that you create while you are employed by the company, company time or your time, belongs to them. That's what you agreed on when you signed the contract. That's why you hear about some tech founders offering their side project to the company they work for before they continue with their venture. The company can decide to keep it or you can agree with the company that they don't want it and you can k…
Spare time isn't work though. Or does my company also own the food I made yesterday, the children I made...
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#19Yes, any project that you create while you are employed by the company, company time or your time, belongs to them. That's what you agreed on when you signed the contract. That's why you hear about some tech founders offering their side project to the company they work for before they continue with their venture. The company can decide to keep it or you can agree with the company that they don't want it and you can k…
Re: Ask HN: Should a 'no side projects' policy be taken seriously?
#20Yes, any project that you create while you are employed by the company, company time or your time, belongs to them. That's what you agreed on when you signed the contract. That's why you hear about some tech founders offering their side project to the company they work for before they continue with their venture. The company can decide to keep it or you can agree with the company that they don't want it and you can k…