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Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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The question is now if you mean cryptography or cryptocurrency, although I am afraid you definitly might mean the latter..

What's with HN's vitriol for almost anything that's at the crossroad between tech and growing mainstream enthusiasm? I swear the HN crowd would be anti-internet if it were just starting out.

OP is also interested in the ecosystem. It's not like they're asking for the next pump and dump coin on Tiktok. Give them a break.

Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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post #11
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The question is now if you mean cryptography or cryptocurrency, although I am afraid you definitly might mean the latter..

What's with HN's vitriol for almost anything that's at the crossroad between tech and growing mainstream enthusiasm? I swear the HN crowd would be anti-internet if it were just starting out. OP is also interested in the ecosystem. It's not like they're asking for the next pump and dump coin on Tiktok. Give them a break.

Meta: This is our version of the Eternal September. "Hacker" means a subset of tech people that are focused on invention and innovation for innovation sake. They are the minority nowadays, the rest is tech people, grown up on the modern Internet mindset that cynicism gives you more points and thus makes you feel smart. I blame the karma system.

Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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You probably won't find much love for the topic here but Zug, Switzerland is the archetype "crypto valley" now. Besides that, there's a lot of western cryptocurrency enthusiasts in South East Asia for many years now, at startup events there cryptocurrency is a painfully common topic that crowds out the scene a lot. So I'd also add Singapore and Bangkok to the list, locals seem to have embraced it quite a bit too, a s…

The same switzerland that requires proof of address ownership when using a non-custodial wallet? https://www.bitcoinsuisse.com/news/what-is-the-fatf-travel-r...

I don't see how that is problem at all? They are actually taking what is an almost universal border law and updating it for common times while every other country on Earth puts their head in the sand and is 15 years behind.

People can walk across national borders right now with a piece of paper that has 12 words scribbled on it carrying $50m in crypto and legally there's nothing anyone can do about it despite the clear restrictions placed on travelling with $10,000 or more.

Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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It's pretty decentralized in U.S. and abroad. It's not like Silicon Valley where everything is concentrated in one city. Crypto is very global and widespread. Most of the projects operate on Discord and Telegram, so I would start to join those communities, such as various DeFi products or chains (Aave, Optimism, Synthetix, Filecoin, etc) by looking them up on their respective websites. There's also the BuidlGuidl, if you're a coder (https://buidlguidl.com/), join up and do some projects with peeps.

If you're looking to meet folks in person, conferences are great for that. I had a great time at ETHDenver earlier this year, although it was a bit overwhelming (15K+ attendees). As a result of ETHDenver, there is a fair amount of crypto people in Denver. Other good spots are Miami and New York. Any tech hub such as Seattle, Austin, Bay Area, are going to have meetups you can attend. I would check Meetup or Eventbrite in those cities and start connecting.

Outside of the U.S. I'm a bit less familiar with.

Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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post #11
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The question is now if you mean cryptography or cryptocurrency, although I am afraid you definitly might mean the latter..

What's with HN's vitriol for almost anything that's at the crossroad between tech and growing mainstream enthusiasm? I swear the HN crowd would be anti-internet if it were just starting out. OP is also interested in the ecosystem. It's not like they're asking for the next pump and dump coin on Tiktok. Give them a break.

It varies a lot by thread, but it's probably just aging of the tech cohort. When HN started, the industry was small and many engineers were young. Those engineers in their 20s are now in their 40s. Regular threads come up here these days about being digital Amish. Reminds me of Slashdot shortly before everyone started leaving (though I don't think it'll happen here as there's no viable competitor.) It's just the old Douglas Adams quote playing out here, tech from your childhood is great/ethical/useful and everything in your adulthood isn't.

And many people thought the Net and the Web was going to be a fad. Who needs a web BBS when you have Usenet, why a forum when there are Fido distributions? Entire BBSes died because they couldn't fathom being on the net. HN's current demographic would probably think most of the Web was a hyped up ruse made to sell more modems.

Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same switzerland that requires proof of address ownership when using a non-custodial wallet? https://www.bitcoinsuisse.com/news/what-is-the-fatf-travel-r...

I don't see how that is problem at all? They are actually taking what is an almost universal border law and updating it for common times while every other country on Earth puts their head in the sand and is 15 years behind. People can walk across national borders right now with a piece of paper that has 12 words scribbled on it carrying $50m in crypto and legally there's nothing anyone can do about it despite the cle…

Then why can i travel with a credit card without restrictions? Shouldn't that be the same as carrying my crypto wallet?

Re: Ask HN: What city is the center of crypto innovation?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how that is problem at all? They are actually taking what is an almost universal border law and updating it for common times while every other country on Earth puts their head in the sand and is 15 years behind. People can walk across national borders right now with a piece of paper that has 12 words scribbled on it carrying $50m in crypto and legally there's nothing anyone can do about it despite the cle…

Then why can i travel with a credit card without restrictions? Shouldn't that be the same as carrying my crypto wallet?

Your credit card provides you with credit, as the name implies.

It's not an asset in itself.

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