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Ask HN: Perspectives for Ukrainian programmer coming to US as a war refugee?

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Re: Ask HN: Perspectives for Ukrainian programmer coming to US as a war refugee?

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I'm sorry that you feel that way. In my opinion the 'hate the most' label is better applied to Russian troops and government, not to Ukrainian civilians that happen to suffer in the destroyed city. And, with all due respect, that's pretty rich of you to throw accusations without knowing my circumstances.

Re: Ask HN: Perspectives for Ukrainian programmer coming to US as a war refugee?

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Immigration in the US is not easy, however USCIS has made some recent improvements specifically for citizens of Ukraine. The Uniting for Ukraine is a "parole" program. So you won't have any immigration status. It does come with the ability to get work authorization, and it's been made online recently. Those usually go quicker, but I don't know how long those are taking. Until then you'll probably have make do with pa…

Thank you for the breakdown!

Re: Ask HN: Perspectives for Ukrainian programmer coming to US as a war refugee?

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"Just get your foot in the door and things will go from there." I've heard such argument and it is optimistic and hopeful, but immigration status needs some basis to acquire. I wonder about perspectives of legally staying and working beyond 2 years of temporary protection (I believe tech firms don't employ undocumented engineers).

It is easier to acquire such status once you are inside. Governments have a hard time getting people out than refusing their entry before they board from their destination. Doesn't mean it can't happen, but the odds are less likely. This is really a comparison of what you have now in Russia vs. how it could be in the US. If the Russia government was about to make life bad for every Ukrainian inside the country, would…

Doesn’t US visa state in some way that your intended visit is only temporary? For example, if you take that visa and then decide to stay it can be used against you by immigration?

Re: Ask HN: Perspectives for Ukrainian programmer coming to US as a war refugee?

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> What about to serve or help your country?

did Kyivites ask citizens of Mariupol about their position on the armed coup against a democratically elected [1] president in 2014? That president was elected by a majority of Eastern Ukraine, including Mariupol. The president didn't break a law even to be impeached, yet political elites and their sympathizers around Kiyv decided the fate of the country for everyone in that year. There was no referendum, there was no impeachment process, there was no desire to preserve the right to representation of the people in Eastern Ukraine. But now you're asking a random guy from Mariupol to "serve or help your country". What for? To be tossed around once more?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_el...

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