Most senior level hackers are being hired through very shortened interview cycles. Often a phonecall and that's it. The old school way of a recruiter reaching out, then a screening, then a tech round is falling behind.
Ask HN: Where are all the senior front end engineers?
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#12Most senior level hackers are being hired through very shortened interview cycles. Often a phonecall and that's it. The old school way of a recruiter reaching out, then a screening, then a tech round is falling behind.
True story. I don't mind a few follow-ups to meet management/executive staff before an offer, but a company needs to be able to recognize my talent without a microscope. If they don't have someone to do that, they need to be recruiting me at CTO level.
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#13I think as you grow in your career you'll tend to specialize rather than generalize. You get really good at a few things, rather than somewhat good at lots of things. The "Senior FE" roles are fewer but more specific. Now and then I see listings for "Performance Engineer", "Accessibility Engineer", and "Infrastructure Engineer", but on further inspection these are actually Senior Front End roles, but not in title. Re…
I've often gotten the impression that Google interviews more for general applicability to working at Google than for the specific role advertised. Your comment here being no exception -- is that your experience, is that what you mean to convey?
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#14Senior FE is high demand, low supply position. In a similar boat for hiring, but I think it helps when you are able to present your company as one that values FE (a good website for starters).
Since I leveled up on React over the past couple years I've mulled adding some FE projects on the side but backend consultancy seems to dominate the demand on my time/skills. Backend just doesn't give me the tangible feeling of FE work.
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#15I would be considered a senior FE engineer, and I do interviewing at my employer. I recently interviewed an individual for a L6 role (senior engineer) who didn't know how to listen for clicks on a . What's going on?
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#16I think as you grow in your career you'll tend to specialize rather than generalize. You get really good at a few things, rather than somewhat good at lots of things. The "Senior FE" roles are fewer but more specific. Now and then I see listings for "Performance Engineer", "Accessibility Engineer", and "Infrastructure Engineer", but on further inspection these are actually Senior Front End roles, but not in title. Re…
I've often gotten the impression that Google interviews more for general applicability to working at Google than for the specific role advertised. Your comment here being no exception -- is that your experience, is that what you mean to convey?
We're in agreement. It reflects my experience. I had to question the recruiter about it, "How does Google hire FE specialists in Accessibility for example?" and I didn't get a good answer. I assume they throw some fungible engineer at the problem and hope for the best?
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#17They have jobs already. I don't know if you're US-based, but our company is having the same issue with off shore devs.
I've been banging my head for the past few weeks trying to get our management team to understand off shoring is by no means an easy solution any more. We've traditionally hired off shore with good success, and management thinks it's still easy. However, our recruiters have been fairly quiet these past few months, and the candidates that we're getting are a lot less experienced than what we want. You absolutely cannot just waltz into a developing country with a US job posting and expect candidates lining up. Everyone did that, and now we're in a situation where the competition is insane. Off shore costs have skyrocketed, and, addressing your second point, you have to have interesting work for them.
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#18Low supply of talent, low supply of companies worth working on their product.
Usually the existing frontend is a mess and the company has no intention of scrapping it.
Why shoot yourself in the foot with such a ball of stress? Current FE's are happily married.
If an enticing startup came along, maybe. But in this environment it better be REAL enticing.
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#19Maybe try check the recruiting funnel/pipeline. It's possible majority of them got dropped at the initial interview stage where they were asked questions not relevant to their expertise, so by the time the funnel reaches you it's just drips.
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