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Her power is absolute and temporal, she isn't a mere figurehead. She does wield this power from time to time, she dissolved the nation of Australia not too long ago on a whim.
Almost 50 years ago. Caused a constitutional crisis. Would not think it’s repeatable elsewhere in the commonwealth. Reasonable chance her successor will be head of state of fewer realms. Constitutional monarchs use their power at risk to their institution. Sometimes it’s quite useful (Spain), but it would quickly fade if used repeatedly. Analogous to any non-executive head of state I would think. However, the time of…
Ask HN: What do you think of the Queen?
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Her power is absolute and temporal, she isn't a mere figurehead. She does wield this power from time to time, she dissolved the nation of Australia not too long ago on a whim.
What are you talking about? I found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional... . But this looks like political maneuvering between parties more than the queen being arbitrary (or using powers that normally can't be invoked.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost 50 years ago. Caused a constitutional crisis. Would not think it’s repeatable elsewhere in the commonwealth. Reasonable chance her successor will be head of state of fewer realms. Constitutional monarchs use their power at risk to their institution. Sometimes it’s quite useful (Spain), but it would quickly fade if used repeatedly. Analogous to any non-executive head of state I would think. However, the time of…
It's not just possible, it can be done without notice on a whim.
Perhaps this is (another) example of the difficulties of running a government composed of more than one centre of power.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost 50 years ago. Caused a constitutional crisis. Would not think it’s repeatable elsewhere in the commonwealth. Reasonable chance her successor will be head of state of fewer realms. Constitutional monarchs use their power at risk to their institution. Sometimes it’s quite useful (Spain), but it would quickly fade if used repeatedly. Analogous to any non-executive head of state I would think. However, the time of…
It's not just possible, it can be done without notice on a whim.
(Officially breaking will cause some problems, so it depends a lot on the internal situation and how much popular support the government has.)
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not just possible, it can be done without notice on a whim.
Rereading the wiki article, it seems Australia resembles England before the House of Lords was broken in the 1905-1909 time period - the upper house can influence money bills. It would seem that this was a case of the Governor General involving powers of the crown that it has but should not use. The gg was Australian. Perhaps this is (another) example of the difficulties of running a government composed of more than…
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not just possible, it can be done without notice on a whim.
Australia has enough tanks. In case the Queen want to dissolve the government they can just tweet "Nah" and continue as usual. What is the United Kingdom going to do? Invade? Ask Canada and New Zeeland to make a joint force? (Officially breaking will cause some problems, so it depends a lot on the internal situation and how much popular support the government has.)
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#17How is the UK monarchy anti-democratic in any manner? She has only symbolic governmental power. Alternatively, do you feel the monarch should be elected for some reason and if they were, what problem would that solve?
I think a set of individuals having legal privilege by virtue of bloodline, as well as being state sponsored by tax revenue (regardless of absolute cost), is pretty anti-democratic. And yes, elected is literally democratic?
There are many people in the world who currently have some form of legal privilege by virtue of bloodline. For example, many indigenous people.
I don't want to get into a tit-for-tat about this. For me, at worst The Queen seems benign at best a proud symbol of a great nation.
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#18I can't speak for anybody else, but I can answer your question in seven words:
I usually don't think of the Queen.
I'm not her subject, since I'm a New Yorker and some of my English ancestors fought to throw off the tyranny of Britain. Some of my ancestors are French, and I think most of us know what the French think of monarchy; they created a technological solution to the sociopolitical problem of a burdensome ruling class.
As for Britain maintaining its half-assed monarchy: it's not like the Queen has any real authority, is it? Sure, she can open and dissolve Parliament, and gives her assent to laws passed by the Lords and Commons, but isn't the royal assent essentially a rubber stamp?
It seems to be Parliament and the Prime Minister calling the shots, and even the PM doesn't dare annoy Parliament too much. I wouldn't say that the British system is less democratic than the one we have in the US, where unelected billionaires all but buy Senators with impunity, and a few senators can force Congress to ignore the will of the people. If anything, I'd say that the UK is more republican than the US.
Besides, the monarchy seems to be good for tourism and the occasional scandal. We can't let the Kardiashians have all the fun, can we?
Now, let's talk about meritocracy. I know the word has positive connotations, especially here on HN, but we seemed to have forgotten that the word "meritocracy" was coined by Michael Dunlop Young in his dystopian satire, The Rise of the Meritocracy. Alas, too many people have misread it as they've misread 1984, The Handmaid's Tale, and Snow Crash, so that like these better-known books The Rise of the Meritocracy is treated as an instruction manual instead of a warning -- when it is read at all.
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#19Also, it would be awesome if one of them studied forensic accounting and looked into all areas of Her Majesty's government.
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#20How is the UK monarchy anti-democratic in any manner? She has only symbolic governmental power. Alternatively, do you feel the monarch should be elected for some reason and if they were, what problem would that solve?
Her power is absolute and temporal, she isn't a mere figurehead. She does wield this power from time to time, she dissolved the nation of Australia not too long ago on a whim.
The queen has been effectively stripped of all personal discretion when it comes to the use of her reserve powers.
She has no real choice when it comes to who is appointed prime minister or which bills are made into law.
The voters and elected officials make those decisions, and her only real job is give a royal stamp of approval.