I'm currently typing this on a 2008 MacBook Pro with a 2.5GHZ Core 2 Duo and 6GB RAM. It's playing a 1080P video on a second monitor and has 5 browser tabs open in two browsers. Currently using 4.7GB RAM and 60% CPU.
Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
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Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#12Because 8GB still works fine and will continue to work fine for at least the next 6-7 years. Cheap Windows laptops and Chromebooks still come with 4GB ram. I'm currently typing this on a 2008 MacBook Pro with a 2.5GHZ Core 2 Duo and 6GB RAM. It's playing a 1080P video on a second monitor and has 5 browser tabs open in two browsers. Currently using 4.7GB RAM and 60% CPU.
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#13However, when the supply chain is crunched (as it is now), Apple's build-to-order MacBook Pros take two months to deliver. This means that the only available models to purchase immediately from retailers are the low end models that don't cut it.
I doubt it will ever change though. There is more profit in keeping the price low for customers that don't know any better rather than accommodating business customers that need something workable immediately.
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#14Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#15Still, 8GB is simply not enough for anything close to "pro" needs.
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#16Compression for memory on macs has probably removed a lot of this pressure to increase beyond 16gb.
For the arm solutions moving the memory on package also may be a limiting factor, since there is only so much space available.
Lastly since macs have memory fixed to the package or motherboard failure is expensive, since you’re replacing an entire system board. They have about a 1.5% afr.
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the 2020 model, no?
It is. It's the first M1 model still with the touchbar and the old display. So far it hasn't been discontinued, but de-facto replaced by the current 14 inch model.
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is. It's the first M1 model still with the touchbar and the old display. So far it hasn't been discontinued, but de-facto replaced by the current 14 inch model.
The 14in is 60% more expensive than the 13in for the base models and Apple are still selling the 13in as current on at least the regional website. So that doesn't count as replacing to me
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#19Because 8GB still works fine and will continue to work fine for at least the next 6-7 years. Cheap Windows laptops and Chromebooks still come with 4GB ram. I'm currently typing this on a 2008 MacBook Pro with a 2.5GHZ Core 2 Duo and 6GB RAM. It's playing a 1080P video on a second monitor and has 5 browser tabs open in two browsers. Currently using 4.7GB RAM and 60% CPU.
You must have a very different definition of "fine" than me. Only getting OOMkilled several times per hour is OK?
Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
You must have a very different definition of "fine" than me. Only getting OOMkilled several times per hour is OK?
The commenter didn't say they were getting hit with OOMs. Is this something that is happening to you?
Someone using Chrome + Facebook or even a dev writing e.g. Python in VS Code to run locally is probably less likely to hit that.