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Yes. It had DNSSEC enabled for over a year when it was with the old registrar.
You would usually need to disable DNSSEC, wait 24h, transfer, and then wait for at least 24h before enabling DNSSEC again.
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#12> what's the fastest way to get technical assistance when on a free plan? Upgrading to a non-free plan? You don't have to upgrade to enterprise, but even their $20/mo plan comes with support. (Also, I hate to victim-blame here but using DNSSEC was a bad idea in the first place)
Can you please explain why DNSSEC was a bad idea in the first place? It worked perfectly fine with the old registrar.
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Can you please explain why DNSSEC was a bad idea in the first place? It worked perfectly fine with the old registrar.
It like https. A lot of people in the past viewed HTTPS as a terrible idea that just broke things, and every example where someone had their website go down because of broken certificates or mixed content was proof that https as a concept was broken. Usually people brought up x.509 or revocation lists as the definitive proof that https would never be common.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. It had DNSSEC enabled for over a year when it was with the old registrar.
You would usually need to disable DNSSEC, wait 24h, transfer, and then wait for at least 24h before enabling DNSSEC again.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It like https. A lot of people in the past viewed HTTPS as a terrible idea that just broke things, and every example where someone had their website go down because of broken certificates or mixed content was proof that https as a concept was broken. Usually people brought up x.509 or revocation lists as the definitive proof that https would never be common.
From a site reliability perspective HTTPS is still broken. Some 15yo OS can't access any site because it doesn't have the certificates or cipher suites. And as you mentioned we need to update certs, webservers and DNS all the time to keep up to date. We only put up with it because it protects users from from snoopers. But that means we live in an inadequate equilibrium. If we abolished mass surveillance rather than i…
Mass surveillance is not the only reason to have HTTPS everywhere. It protects not just from snoopers, but from MITM attacks.
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
It like https. A lot of people in the past viewed HTTPS as a terrible idea that just broke things, and every example where someone had their website go down because of broken certificates or mixed content was proof that https as a concept was broken. Usually people brought up x.509 or revocation lists as the definitive proof that https would never be common.
From a site reliability perspective HTTPS is still broken. Some 15yo OS can't access any site because it doesn't have the certificates or cipher suites. And as you mentioned we need to update certs, webservers and DNS all the time to keep up to date. We only put up with it because it protects users from from snoopers. But that means we live in an inadequate equilibrium. If we abolished mass surveillance rather than i…
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You would usually need to disable DNSSEC, wait 24h, transfer, and then wait for at least 24h before enabling DNSSEC again.
Thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind for eventual future transfers. But shouldn't I be able to disable DNSSEC regardless, instead of the domain being stuck in limbo and hijacked by what appears to be a deadlock type of bug?
DNSSEC signed is basically just that the TLD servers has a DS record listed for the domain. In order to remove dnssec you remove the DS record. This can be easy or hard depending on the interface that the TLD, but in theory very simple.
The reason why its recommended to remove dnssec before transfer is to allow caches to timeout with the old DS record to expire. Some TLD also automatically remove DS when you do a transfer and a name server change, as it is a rather clear signal that the old key won't be useful. There is however some exciting new technology called multi-signer which is intended to resolve this problem in the future.